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Re: 'Rods' - On The Learning Channel

From: Jose Escamilla <rods@rmi.net>
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 03:40:38 +0300
Fwd Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 11:06:16 -0500
Subject: Re: 'Rods' - On The Learning Channel

Rods - Sony VX-1000 Tests

Dear Bruce and Roger,

I have to explain myself here. First of all, I have been doing
these tests and have observed all the data as a layman and in
those terms. I wish I knew all the technical things that Bruce
has and I really appreciate your input Bruce as I do Roger's.
Jim Peters, Ken Swartz and I did these tests with the Sony
VX-1000 and if we had the resources we would have done the same
things with a variety of camcorders used in the past, just for
arguement's sake.

The bolt with the Sony tests, actually appears on, at the most,
on three frames of video and this was at a point where I pulled
out the zoom to it's maximum "wide shot" field of view.

I failed to mention in my first write up that I had set the
camera's view to match what I was seeing with the naked eye.

When the camera was ten feet away from the ribbon, I didn't have
it "full wide" shot. I looked through the viewfinder and kept my
left eye open and matched what the camera was capturing with the
way my naked eye was percieving the scene.

I always do this when videotaping for Rods because it's obvious
that when the camera is set at wide angle, what it is capturing
is actually not what you are seeing with the naked eye.

When taping for Rods at Midway with a single camcorder in 1994,
I knew that we needed to do this in order to have some
references as to far they might have passed by from the

At the speed the bolt was traveling, using the matching the
naked eye viewpoint, it only appears in one frame, sometimes in
a frame and a field, depending on the distance the camera is
from the ribbon.

The bolt blurs using digital zoom extended all the way into the
scene from 100 feet away, which for all it's worth, I was
worried about. I wanted to make sure that once optical zoom, as
compared to the electronic digital zoom, would not fool us as to
what was really there.

I am only saying all this in layman's terms, but the test proved
positive as far as visuals are concerned from this aspect.

This tells us that if a Rod was captured at the cave, and Mark,
(the camerman), zoomed the camera into the scene at maximum
digital zoom, from one hundred feet away, that if the Rod was
100 feet away from the camera, and it 16 1/2" in length, and
captured in one frame of video, that it could have been
traveling at 100 to 136 mph.

However if the Rod was captured in five frames of video at 100
feet away and at full digital zoom, then it was traveling

In all, this test gave us an indicator that Rods are not
traveling in the thousands of miles per hour as percieved by us
and others at the beginning of our videotaping them in 1994.

At the least we have somewhat realistic possible velocities of
these things. I am desperately trying to get the funding for the
Kodak Motion Analyzer cameras so that we can take them to the
cave in Mexico, shoot in stereo and at frame speeds from 250 to
10,000 "real fps" so that we can get the data that accurately
tells us what's going here.

I know that setting up two cameras side by side is not that
expensive, but I want to cover all aspects and leave no stone

Bruce, I finally got the maps and coordinates of the cave that
you requested I send you a year ago. Jim is making copies of all
the information, maps, etc., and I will send this to you as soon
as possible, along with the time, date and other information
taken by Mark Lichtle in 1996, with the Rod that enters the
shadows of the cave and the rest of the shots taken at that time

Continuing with the effort...

Jose Escamilla

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