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Re: What's The Point? - A Rant

From: Leanne Martin <leanne_martin@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 00:04:54 PST
Fwd Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 15:54:44 -0500
Subject: Re: What's The Point? - A Rant

>From: John W. Ratcliff <jratcliff@worldnet.att.net>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>Subject: What's The Point? - A Rant
>Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 00:33:05 -0600

>I am ashamed to admit that I kind of, sort of, maybe, in a way,
>sometimes believe there might really be such a thing as UFOs.
>Of course, then all of the sudden, awash in existentialism, I
>begin to question my definitions of what reality is.  Is 'it'
>something objective, 'out there', fixed and stable ruled by
>immutable laws of physics, only marred by my pathetic interface
>system, my random and half incoherent excuse for self-aware
>consciousness, and generally half psychotic bad attitude?


>While I love UFOs, and my run on sentences which are probably
>designed to cause my high school English teacher the same kind
>of maddening feeling I get when I browse the Enterprise Mission
>web site, I must conclude that nothing anybody can publish,
>produce, or promote, can ever rise above the noise and madness
>of the likes of Art Bell, Richard Hoagland, god knows how many
>other internet yahoos, radio talk show hosts, mega
>bagzillionaire ex-CEO's, and their self-addled friends.

>I give up.  Love and kisses.

>John W. Ratcliff
>Self Mutilating UFO Groupie

Unlike John, I am not ashamed to admit that there might be UFOs,
ghosts, goblins, Chuppa-chups, fairies at the bottom of the
garden, bigfoots (bigfeet?) and alien abductions, etc. (**Note
the words _might_, please.) John, what a good rant, be careful
though as it was fully coherent. Isn't that breaking the
tradition?  <g>

Like John I, too, love the topic of UFOs and scour the List,
news agents, bookshelves and the web testing my credulity daily.
Often I wonder, too, whether my 'interface' is awry because I
want so much to believe in things for which the evidence is
lacking. I really do want to believe.

When I express my opinions as to why I am not a 'confirmed
believer' in a very exacting, coherent and logical way, and
probing for a proof positive I am assailed as if I am the
Anti-Christ herself! The assailants, for the most part, seem not
to be able to step back and look at themselves and their
'evidence' as would any unbiased and dispassionate researcher of
any subject. (**Note I said _for the most part_.) I attacked _no
individual_, but I have no compunction whatsoever about
attacking bad logic. I used religious references to point out
their zeal and that reminds me: Which religion is the one true
faith - each one _knows_ that it is? Which alien abduction/s
scenario/s is/are the truth? There are far too, too many to
choose from in religions and alien abductions and each one is
adamant that their's is the way and the truth and the light. If
they are all true then there are tens of thousands of gods and
perhaps a few hundred totally different alien species with
unique reasons to abduct you.

(I dare say, the most 'believable' abduction stories are the
ones where it happens without rhyme, reason, or explanation. It
reminds me so much of human nature - where someone with the
absolute power to do something will do it - coldly, bluntly,
brutally - simply because they can and see no reason to do

As stated above there _might_ be all manner of curious things on
our world, and around it, of the likes mentioned in this List.
There actually might be! As there might be mentally unwell
people who claim to be abductees there might equally be those
who truly are abductees. (I feel terribly sorry for either
experience as both appear equally horrible to go through.) I am
fully entitled to not believe in them until the proof is in the
pudding, just as others do already believe in them.

On my recent holidays in Tasmania I happened upon two seperate
crop circles. I did not ascribe any supernatural or 'out of this
world' nature to them. I took them for what they are - anomolies
that are awaiting an explanation. To my mind that is what UFOs,
abduction experiences, etc., are - various anomolies (real or
imagined) that are awaiting explanations.

Back to John's rant (sorry, mate, I didn't want to hijack your
rant) - what's the point? When I grow up I'll buy a rant of my
own . . . maybe a chicken rant, or a sheep rant, or a cattle
rant, or a dude rant - I know, a Hoagland rant with lots of
little Hoagies running around . . .

Regards (stirring the possum as ever),
Leanne  ];-)

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