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Re: 'Eprime' In Action

From: Jeff Rense <eotl@west.net>
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 10:21:08 -0800 (PST)
Fwd Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:35:11 -0500
Subject: Re: 'Eprime' In Action

>From: John W. Ratcliff <jratcliff@worldnet.att.net>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>Subject: 'Eprime' In Action
>Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 00:33:44 -0600

>In some message I posted on UFO UpDates a while back, I made
>disparaging remarks which included Jeff Rense of
><www.sightings.com> fame.  A few members of the peanut gallery,
>lurkers all, e-mailed me grand huzzah's for calling Hoagland to
>task, but tsked, tsked, me for including Rense with that hoary
>horde of paranormal pontificators.  While Jeff Rense probably is
>fairly rational in real life, the fact remains that his web site
>continues to sponsor articles about speech reversals, and other
>irrational nonsense, thus thrusting him into the category of
>'part of the problem' rather than 'part of the solution.'

Hi John,

I enjoyed your note, you are a well-spoken man.  Somehow,
however, in your surge to judge, you have gone right past the
entire point of my website: it is a general news service...and
not a platform which reflects or endorses any particular
viewpoint over another.

Search it and you will find that it presents the views of not
only Mr. Heseman and Mr. Meier but equally those of Kal Korff.
I have even had Mr. Korff and Mr. Randy Winters debate Mr. Meier
on my program.

On the website, as even the most casual observer can see, flows
a stream of articles which represent diametrically opposed
viewpoints on such as the coming Y2K crisis and literally scores
of other significant issues. Perhaps you missed my DataPages
archives at the bottom of the homepage which contain hundreds
upon hundreds of exceedingly diverse opinion and contradictory

The site purveys a smorgasbord of information designed to,
hopefully, stimulate critical thinking.  It is an opportunity to
exercise and define one's personal intellectual paradigm.
Should you not find an article palatable, there is a certain key
on your keyboard you may depress to instantly remove it from
your mental tv tray.  To condemn my website on the grounds you
purport would be indentical to condemning this list or any other
legitimate forum for the competent free expression of thought,
data, and individual opinion.

In a general sense, there is probably something on my website to
offend most everyone sooner or later.

My website is a free-ranging presentation of news and
information: from ufology and the paranormal to cancer research
and nutrition; from Y2K, our dying environment and the NBC
threat to the discovery of extra solar planets and the latest in
genetic engineering.

If presenting such material makes me 'part of the problem' and a
member of the 'hoary hoard' in your world, John, I say 'good
luck to you' and urge you to spend your time elsewhere on the

Furthermore, to refer to the totality of my website and these
subjects as 'new folklore' connotes a disturbing, bizarre
elitism, and rather frightful state of mentality which leaves
one close to a physical shudder in response.

Oh, and you are right, I am 'probably fairly rational in real

Jeff Rense

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