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Re: 1999 UFO Alien Abduction Conference Announced

From: Kevin Randle <KRandle993@aol.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 00:46:33 EST
Fwd Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 07:03:59 -0500
Subject: Re: 1999 UFO Alien Abduction Conference Announced


>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark@frontiernet.net>
>Subject: Re: 1999 UFO Alien Abduction Conference Announced
>Date: Wed, 27 Jan 99 11:29:24 PST


>>From: Kevin Randle <KRandle993@aol.com>
>>Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:23:11 EST
>>To: updates@globalserve.net
>>Subject: Re: 1999 UFO Alien Abduction Conference Announced

>>>From: Stig Agermose <stig.agermose@get2net.dk>
>>>Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 02:02:26 +0100 (MET)
>>>Subject: 1999 UFO Alien Abduction Conference Announced
>>>To: updates@globalserve.net

>>>Source: "alt.ufo.reports".

<snip>

>>>The conference is planned as both a crash course in the ongoing
>>>UFO abduction phenomenon - what we know and how we know it - and
>>>an illustrated presentation of the latest research findings.

>>It will only be a crash course in belief structure and it will
>>not contain the latest findings. Only those findings which they
>>want you to hear. In an upcoming book by Kevin Randle (me), Russ
>>Estes, and Dr. William P. Cone, we take a long and hard look at
>>the abduction phenomenon as it exists today. We can find some
>>alternative explanations and we offered to share these at the
>>conference, but the organizers were uninterested in that. They
>>are only interested in promoting alien abduction as if it is a
>>proven fact and refuse to answer hard questions about it.

>Kevin,

>I am afraid that none of the above makes much sense to me. First
>of all, the organizers of any conference on any subject have the
>right to invite exactly whom they want to invite, and to have
>represented any point of view they endorse, feel comfortable
>with, or consider important.  If you're not happy with the views
>expressed at the Intruders conference, hold your own damn
>conference.

Absolutely correct. However, when they suggest that they will be
telling us what we know and how we know it, they invite those
who may not agree with them to point out that some viewpoints
and information might not be presented. I was merely suggesting
that this conference, based on those invited to present
information, have already expressed, in other arenas, books,
articles and conversations a specific point of view. No one who
holds a contrary point of view is on the schedule.

>Second of all, unless you are claiming telepathic powers, I
>don't think you know what I'm going to say, and I resent the
>implication that I am involved in some sort of misleading
>propaganda effort.

I didn't claim telepathic powers.  Instead, I suggested, based
on the past history of those speakers,  that a certain point of
view will be in evidence. Are you suggesting that there will be
a contrary point of view? Are you suggesting that you are going
to suggest that some abductions might be the result of well
established psychological pathologies? Are you going to suggest
that some abductees might have invented their tales for the
attention that it brings them?

Please note that I have not suggested that _all_ abductees have
psychological problems or have invented their tales. I'm only
suggesting that some do, a point that we, in the UFO community,
are reluctant to mention.

>And third of all, I look forward to reading your book.  I just
>hope that it's better than other books which have sought
>reductionist explanations for this peculiar phenomenon. What we
>all need, really, is a book by Eddie Bullard -- than whom no one
>knows more about the abduction maze or has so balanced a view --
>on the subject.

>Jerry Clark

Well, no one has stopped Eddie Bullard from writing that book.
Instead we looked at about 200 or 300 abductions, looked at
various other scientific and psychological phenomena, and made
some observations that should have been obvious.

However, please note here that I have not suggested that all
abductions can be explained by a single answer. I have not
suggested that those claiming abduction suffer from any
psychopathology. But I have also noted that those doing
abduction research have made, at least one, basic mistake.
Contrary to what has been said, the AMA has not endorsed
hypnosis.

 KRandle

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