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Re: 1999 UFO Alien Abduction Conference Announced

From: John <jvif@spacelab.net>
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:58:24 -0500
Fwd Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 07:40:09 -0500
Subject: Re: 1999 UFO Alien Abduction Conference Announced

>From: Roger Evans <moviestuff@cyberjunkie.com>
>Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:28:07 +0000
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>Subject: 1999 UFO Alien Abduction Conference Announced

>>From: John Velez <jvif@spacelab.net>
>>Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 00:47:18 -0500
>>Fwd Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 06:19:32 -0500
>>Subject: Re: 1999 UFO Alien Abduction Conference Announced

>>>From: Kevin Randle <KRandle993@aol.com>
>>>Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:23:11 EST
>>>To: updates@globalserve.net
>>>Subject: Re: 1999 UFO Alien Abduction Conference Announced

>>The truth of the situation is this:

>>A. Greg Sandow called me and told me of your interest/offer to
>>participate in the conference. We both thought it was a
>>_great_idea_ and we thought it would lend 'balance' and
>>alternative points of view to the presentation.

>>B. We both brought it up at the very next business meeting.
>>Not only did we bring it up, _we_pitched_it_ because we both
>>felt you would be a good addition.

>>C. The _only_ reasons it was rejected are the following:

>>1. We had _already_ invited Dave Jacobs, Stanton Friedman and
>>Jerry Clark. (Stan and Jerry need to be flown in.)

>>2. We are working on a shoestring and we _couldn't_afford_ to
>>fly in a third speaker!


>>Are you suggesting a conspiracy or an attempt to keep you out
>>because of your views? _Nothing_ is farther from the truth. You
>>are welcome to verify any of what I have said here with either
>>Greg Sandow or Budd Hopkins.

>>If _any_ of the prior commitments hadn't already been made, Greg
>>and I were prepared to argue for your inclusion but we can't
>>afford to bring you in as well.

>If Kevin Randle were to fly himself in, would he be welcome to
>address the conference? Certainly there should be a little time

Hi Roger,

That would have been a possibility two weeks ago. We have since
added Carol Rainey to the schedule (she is giving a talk on the
role of the media re: UFOs and abductions) and as a result the
schedule is now full. Carol is also 'local' and doesn't require
special travel arrangements.

It's only a _one_ day conference. If there was more time, and
Kevin was willing to pay his own way, I don't see why he
couldn't/shouldn't speak at any conference sponsored by IF. In
fact he could have compensated himself by selling some of his
books at our table during the event. There's more here than
meets the eye though Roger. There was more than a little vitriol
in Kevins' post about the conference. There are several
conferences each year and 'for some reason' he has chosen to
come out publicly and single out our event labeling it biased or
one sided. I've never seen him post complaints about any
conferences that he has participated in, or any others for that
matter. How many of the conferences that have taken place could
be considered "well balanced" in terms of presentation of
opposing points of view? Not many I'm sure. But for some reason
Kevin feels it's his duty to warn everyone about how biased ours

I don't quite get it, but then there it is. In spite of many
differences of opinion and belief I have always liked and
respected Kevin. This particular outing of his has me a bit
baffled however. I am sorry that he has adopted this "negative"
view of our event. Just three weeks ago he was asking to be
invited as a participant. He seemed more than willing to
associate himself and his name with us and our conference. Now,
he's knocking us all over the internet.

Go figure!  <G>


John Velez
"Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of your own mind."

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