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From: Sean Jones <seanj@tedric.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 21:43:02 +0000 Fwd Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 17:15:12 -0500 Subject: Re: Abduction - The Issue Of Reality >From: Jim Mortellaro <Jsmortell@aol.com> >Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 08:55:29 EST >To: updates@globalserve.net >Subject: Abduction - The Issue Of Reality [was... 1999 UFO Alien...] Hi Jim >>On a serious note, I'd like to stay out of this one as it is >>entirely personal, IMHO, and one which ruffles feathers >>instantly if you even dare to suggest that there might be other >>things to explain _some_alleged_ abductions. I know I said I wouldn't comment of this but...... >True Sean..... >The experience leaves one exceedingly disturbed, is entirely too >realistic and remains in the memory longer than the worst of >recurring dreams. IF it continues off and on over a lifetime, >the results of such a personal encounter are fascinatingly >personal. It is like getting raped, altho being a guy, I can >never truly relate to that. I do not doubt for one instant just how disturbing such an event would/can/is be. >I do not even begin to understand what, how and why, I only know >this... to the experiencer, it is more real than real. Very >real.... very, very real. >I have been having a dialog with some others in the same boat. >The most recent discussion led to the issue of reality. We have >all had recurring dreams. Dreams often leave you with a >"feeling." The feeling left is real enough, but there is the >knowledge that the feeling, while very real, is the remnant of a >dream experience. When I was a child I used to have a recurring dream about floating around outside my house at that time. I know about such a things as Astral travel <can't do it now I'm all grown up :-( > but it could still have been a dream... >The experiencer of this abduction phenom is also left with a >real feeling. However the reason for the feeling is not a dream. >There is always, or most of the time anyway, the knowledge, firm >and unshakeable, that there was no dream. This was something >experienced. I wish I could relate it more clearly than this. An >example.... This feeling, could it be as intangible as "faith" but just as convincing? >I was a rather bright little guy growng up. I knew instinctively >that there was no Santa Claus. I understood that Captain Video >was a story. Even at age 3, 4 and thereabouts. My realization of >what was real and what was imagined was very distinct. My >parents always knew that I had a pretty good grip on reality. >But from a very young age, I distinctly remember being able to >glide along a long, round corridor. I was always in the company >of some others behind and in front. I floated above the floor >and every step I took was impossibly long... many many times my >height. >The experience was so real, that I would practice, at age 4, >standing on the bathroom scale, looking at the needle, knowing >with no doubt whatever, that I could become weightless by >concentrating hard. I believe that levitation has been proved and to apply it to something I mentioned earlier, could it _only_ have been a dream? > >Of course, not having Gripple then, I was not able to do so. But >the memory is still with me today, just as real, just as vivid, >just as strongly compelling now, as it was 51 years ago... like >ti was last night. > >Associated with that memory is the knowledge that i was able to >float thru the window, fly up to the "hospital" over my house in >an ambulance of strange design, to a structure which even today, >precludes my being able to look up at any structure without the >gravest of phobic fear... make that terror. With no insult intended or suggested. Did you know that childhood fears can pervade even unto retirement? > >I am Thomas the doubter. Show me, let me see it, understand it, >look at it, define it and categorize it. Let me see the damned >equation. No? Then it does not exist. That's a shame really, but I can see where you are coming from. > >Why then this predelisction over a belief system including >ascended masters (saints?) and God? Beats the shit outa me. >Except that I have arrived at it on what remains of my >intellect. My belief in God has nothing to do with my intellect, only my "gut feeling". So I am in awe that you can believe by intellect, again no insult intended or suggested. >Steven Hawking was able, thru physics and cosmology, come to the >conclusion that God can exist in the reality of mathematics and >physics. Steven Hawking is a genius without a doubt, so if he says God can exist how can people doubt it :-) >Logic when confronted by emotion, has not a chance in this >reality. That's for sure :-) >Dr. Gesundt. >A very old fool for my age. Jim you are only as old as the woman you feel, or you are only as old as you feel, take your pick :-). Me, on some days I feel a hundred, not bad considering I'm only a third of that. -- In an infinite universe infinitely anything is possible. Sean Jones Homepage--http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Zone/1745/index.htm UFO page--http://www.tedric.demon.co.uk/
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