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Re: Abduction Hypotheses

From: John W. Ratcliff <jratcliff@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 18:14:45 -0600
Fwd Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 20:28:59 -0500
Subject: Re: Abduction Hypotheses

Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 21:28:02 +0000
To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
From: Sean Jones <seanj@tedric.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Abduction Hypotheses

Sean wrote:

>>John, no insult but you have missed two alternatives that have
>>solicited investigation.

>>10) Sleep disorder's/paralysis.

>>11) Astral travel/ OOBE's.

>>Both offer _credible_ possibilities.

Oh, no insult at all. My post was just a collection of random
thoughts flitting through my head, if people have more ideas are
perspectives I would love to hear about them. It's always
interesting to me the e-mail messages I get from the lurker
world when I make a public posting. I know too many people to
have been affected by this phenomenon, and too many people who
have experienced UFOs, and too many people who have remarkable
experiences, to dismiss it so easily; even if I have no personal
experience to measure it by. I feel really uncomfortable when
folks like Persinger 'explain' abduction experiences by inducing
altered states of consciousness in test subjects. When I see
this I just wonder, why is he going to so much effort? I could
drop some folks acid a lot easier than that. That humans have
altered state experiences is no news to the entire psychoactive
subculture. If you are going to be a real scientist about the
matter at least do some shrooms, drop some acid, meditate for a
while, or practice your OBE. I've done all of these things with
hardly any measurable effect. I chalk this up to different
brain wiring.

I've never heard that Persinger has placed an alien abductee
under his contraption and had them confirm, "Yep, that's what it
was. Whooh, what a relief."

Another one, #12, is a real bizarre one. A friend of mine, PJ,
who has had all manner of strange experiences helped me
formulate this one. This starts with a dualistic notion that
consciousness is not a product of the human brain, but rather
the human brain acts as a receiving antenna for consciousness.
Change the wiring, and you change the station. This most bizarre
theory is that the abduction experience involves consciousness
attuning itself to _other realities_, which can be as real as a
punch in the nose one second and as fuzzy as a bunny the next.
This theory pretty much rejects the whole idea of 'real' and
'not real', and opens up an Alice In Wonderland hall of mirrors
that defies explanation in terms of consensus reality. And what
the heck does it matter anyway?

A long time ago I was completely uninterested in these subjects.
I was in the camp of skeptics who not only considered it all
bunk, I had never considered it at all in the first place. Since
researching a whole range of phenomena I have realized that
Universe is far from figured out. I find Universe to be a
fascinating place that I want to learn and experience as much of
as I can during my brief stay here.

I find having an open mind is a lot more conducive to learning
new things. I subscribe to a multi-model approach to reality
assimilation. I can comfortably work with many different models
of reality, even if they are completely contradictory, trying
them on like different sets of clothing; whichever is the most
appropriate for the occasion.

For example, one of my favorite models for reality was written
by a ghost named Seth in the late 70's. I couldn't prove a word
the old ghost ever said, but find his models convenient on many

You got some more models, theories, ideas, I'd love to hear
them. Meanwhile, shouldn't an 'explanation' at least pass muster
with the experiencer before we leave the table satisfied we have
an answer?

John W. Ratcliff

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