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Re: MJ-12 - An Estimate of the Situation

From: Ed Fouche <fouche@connecti.com>
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 19:09:52 -0600
Fwd Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 21:01:40 -0500
Subject: Re: MJ-12 - An Estimate of the Situation

>Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 15:26:52 -0800
>From: Ed Stewart <ufoindex@jps.net>
>To: updates@globalserve.net
>Subject: MJ-12 - An Estimate of the Situation

>Addresses the issue of provenance and genesis as well as the
>issue of linkage of date elements. Items missing from the
>original MJ-12 papers since their appearance on the UFO scene
>and items currently missing from the Woods publicised research.
>Same "research" MO.

>The question to Stanton Friedman at the end of the reposted
>message remains unanswered to this day. I repeat the question to
>any of the proponents of the new MJ-12 papers. Is there anything
>in your promotion that provides multiple, independent,
>link-by-link, verified and direct chains of evidence that
>establishes the genesis/provenance of the MJ-12 documents?

>Ed Stewart


I donít want to weigh in as having any deep knowledge of the
MJ-12 saga.  I can only say I have great respect for Stanton
Freedman and his ongoing research.   Iím more inclined to agree
with many of his points though.

I worked a Black Development program in the late 70s.  It was a
Joint Task Force made up of Air Force, Navy, and DoD
Contractors.  The lowest Clearance of anyone involved in the
Program was Secret, including the supply and clerical people.

Tight Security Procedures and Protocol were implemented for the
Program. The Civilian (DoD) Contractors were given money, i.e.
contractual, that was far beyond the needs of the Program in my
opinion.  This was not uncommon during the spending spree from
the 70s and 80s on Black Programs.

We set up the Engineering Shops and Calibration Laboratories
with the best state of the art Test Equipment, and we had the
most fabulous desks, chairs, etc. Every Field Grade Officer had
a new pickup truck or Jeep.  They bought them with cash at a
civilian dealership.  The contractors paid for everything,
including there own administrative and clerical staff to do much
of our required paper-work. This practice is not uncommon but
against military regulations and directives.

Because of this affluence, mistakes were made.  In spite of the
MANY security briefings and controls, I can remember at least
once a week there was a MAJOR Breach of Security.  Top Secret
documents being put in the wrong safe, because someone had stuck
the folder inside a Secret Folder by mistake.  Non Secret and
Non authorized items being kept in one of the safes designated
Secret, like hard cash and confidential contractor memos.
Briefings and other documents were often marked with no or the
wrong classification.

We had AFFTC, AFLC, ATC, TAC, and SAC, not to mention the NAVY,
visitors all the time.  The Program was a success Only because
they threw so much talent and money at it.

Itís one thing to say a military organization has very few
security breaches, but itís entirely another thing when you have
multiple organizations and DoD contractors working side-by-side.
Mistakes happen all the time.  Sure, most of them are discovered
and corrected.  I can still remember when a male administrative
secretary made up a Controlled Frequency list for the operations
and posted it on the bulletin board in the hall. It was
discovered three hours later.  The list of Frequencies was Top
Secret.  One of the DoD Program Managers gave the changes the
administrative secretary and neglected to post it in the Top
Secret folder.  S--- Happens, even in the most secure areas.

Generals, Congressmen, and Presidential staff routinely walk
around with classified Documents and notes breaking Security
protocols and procedures.

Iíve even seen Secret information put into Electronic Counter
Measures test procedures in Preliminary Manuals by mistake.
Even though the ALC civilians, TAC, USAFE, and contractors
reviewed the drafts.

We wonít even talk about the dumpster FULL of F-15 ATE,
Avionics, and aircraft Technical orders at Kelly AFB where they
were mistakenly thrown out.  Oh, and there were some
Confidential Technical Supplements in the dumpster with them.

Donít throw the baby out with the bath water.  The closest lie
and most believable is the one closest to the truth and Psy-Ops
knows this well.

Edgar A. Fouche, USAF Retired
Author: ĎAlien Raptureí http://fouchemedia.com

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