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Re: 1999 UFO Alien Abduction Conference Announced

From: Kevin Randle <KRandle993@aol.com>
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 10:11:06 EST
Fwd Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 20:53:06 -0500
Subject: Re: 1999 UFO Alien Abduction Conference Announced

>Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 04:23:30 -0500
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>From: John Velez <jvif@spacelab.net>
>Subject: Re: 1999 UFO Alien Abduction Conference Announced

>>From: Kevin Randle <KRandle993@aol.com>
>>Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 09:51:08 EST
>>To: updates@globalserve.net
>>Subject: Re: 1999 UFO Alien Abduction Conference Announced

>>>Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:58:24 -0500
>>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>>>From: John Velez <jvif@spacelab.net>
>>>Subject: Re: 1999 UFO Alien Abduction Conference Announced

>>>>From: Roger Evans <moviestuff@cyberjunkie.com>
>>>>Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:28:07 +0000
>>>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>>>>Subject: 1999 UFO Alien Abduction Conference Announced


>>>>If Kevin Randle were to fly himself in, would he be welcome to
>>>>address the conference? Certainly there should be a little time

<snipped for brevity)

>Kevin wrote:

>>In many of those conferences the agenda is out there for
>>everyone to see. If Richard Boylan is the conference organizer,
>>then it is clear to everyone that nothing considered "negative"
>>will be presented. All New Age philosophy will be endorsed and
>>all evidences of scientific thought will be rejected.

>Geez Kevin, you mentioned the "unmentionable one." EBK must have
>been drowsy when this one came across his screen. The mere
>mention of Heir Doktors name _usually_ ellicits a loud
>"hrrrumph" from him. <G>

>[Looked long, harrumphed, looked harrumphed and posted--ebk]

Gee, I thought we could mention the name.


>>As for knocking you all over the internet, isn't that something
>>of an exaggeration? I personally posted my message twice, both
>>times to closed discussion lists. I have not posted it to any of
>>the open news groups, and in fact, haven't looked at any of
>>those in several months.

>Aw Kevin, now you're being coy. You've been around long enough
>to know that anything that is posted by someone as well known as
>yourself, will get reposted ad nausium all over the place. And
>in no time flat! They don't call it the World Wide Web for
>nothing partner. In 24 hours a post from UpDates could have made
>it around the world at least three times. Yeah, it reaches a lot
>of eyes. And you know that. "Exaggeration?" I don't think so.

Have you seen it posted in other arenas? This is a closed list
and I expect the posts made here to remain here. I did check
some of the newsgroups but all I found were your announcements
about the conference. I didn't post anything there about it. So,
the question remains - Is it an exaggeration?


>Also, (and this is a big bone of contention with me)

>None of them _ever_ take into account that (some folks) may
>simply be telling the truth to the best of their ability.

I believe that the majority of the abductees are telling the
truth to the best of their ability.

>>All I was saying was that we
>>could, if we looked, find various elements of the abduction
>>phenomena in science fiction and pop culture, and that we had
>>better find ways of dealing with that information rather than
>>simply dismissing it.

>There's really only one way to "deal with it" Give "it" credence
>over the reports of the experiencers. Doesn't make much sense
>when looked at in that light does it. It _may be_ valid in
>(some) cases. But, it only serves to minimize what is being
>honestly reported by many credible individuals. Price is too
>high just to prove that (a few) are/may be influenced by media.

Not the point at all. It is one part of a picture and if we're
going to see the truth, we must see the whole picture.

>>I would, of course, have
>>preferred to make the argument myself, but that is not to be.

>My high school basketball coach used to say; "Buck up boys,
>there's always next year! <VBG>

Tell that to the Chicago Cubs <An even bigger G>

>Greg is a fair guy Kevin. Submit some questions for the 'panel.'
>I'm _sure_ Greg will use what he can during the discussion. I
>certainly have no objections to your having some input. Your
>work and reputation have earned you the right to be heard. We
>aren't out to deny you that. (Contrary to your original remarks
>about us and the conference.) <G>

Of course Greg is. Never said that he wasn't.

>Regards, and hopefully still on friendly terms,

Why not? I can separate an argument about a situation from a
personal attack... though many in the UFO can't. That's why I
sometimes talk to Phil Klass who in some respects is a pretty
funny guy. (That ought to stir up another fire storm. Randle
admitted that he talks to Phil Klass.)


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