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Re: Get Real

From: Jim Mortellaro <Jsmortell@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 14:06:34 EDT
Fwd Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 08:07:30 -0400
Subject: Re: Get Real


 >Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 19:40:31 +0000
 >From: Dave Bowden <grafikfx@netscapeonline.co.uk>
 >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
 >Subject: Re: Get Real

 >>Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 21:20:49 +0100
 >>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
 >>From: John Rimmer <jrimmer@magonia.demon.co.uk>
 >>Subject: Re: Get Real

 >>>From: Jim Mortellaro <Jsmortell@aol.com>
 >>>Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 14:49:47 EDT
 >>>Subject: Re: Get Real
 >>>To: updates@globalserve.net

 >>>>Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 16:19:44 +0100
 >>>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
 >>>>From: John Rimmer <jrimmer@magonia.demon.co.uk>
 >>>>Subject: Re: Get Real

 >>>>Is this a peculiarly American thing, this emphasis on whether or
 >>>>not aliens have the "right" to do this or that? Or the similar
 >>>>concern that an individuals "rights" are being violated by
 >>>>aliens. I've noticed it in a few posting on this list and
 >>>>elsewhere, and it always seems to be Americans who raise the
 >>>>point.

 >>>It is an American thing, this emphasis on whether or not aliens
 >>>have the "right" to do this or that.  Especially when the "this
 >>>or the that" is stalking, abducting and performing medical
 >>>intrusions on our bodies. Actually, it should be a human thing,
 >>>as Americans are not the only ones in this world with rights as
 >>>human beings.  In the UK, there are, I presume, safeguards
 >>>against the violations of your human rights, are there not?

 >><snip>

 >>Of course there are safeguards against violations of our human
 >>rights in Britain - you may have heard, for instance of Magna
 >>Carta, which I believe still forms one of the bases of the
 >>American legal code, and good on you for it.

 >That is of course correct, the Magna Carta was drawn up by King
 >John of England in 1215 and eventually became the basis for the
 >American constitution.

 >So I suppose in answer to the previous/previous posting... no it
 >is not an American thing, it's something us Brits have just
 >forgotten about.

Just my opinion, but most people with such protections under
their laws consider this to be either a local thing, or just do
not consider them.  Americans consider it to be universal.  So
sue us.

 >eg:

 >The fifth amendment guarantees

 >No person shall . . . be deprived of life, liberty, or property,
 >without due process of law.

 >Whilst written more than 500 years earlier, Magna Carta declares

 >No freeman shall be taken, imprisoned, . . . or in any other way
 >destroyed . . . except by the lawful judgement of his peers.

 >To a being from another world this would probably mean squat,
 >local law that's all, stuff the prime directive.

 >>they can erase all
 >>evidence of their existence.

 >This may be getting off subject a bit but 'WHAT?' If as you say
 >they can 'erase all evidence of their existence' then how do you
 >explain the literally thousands of people world-wide who seem to
 >remember being abducted??

 >Maybe the aliens just haven't got the hang of that 'memory
 >erase' thang.

 >They can dance across the universe in the blink of an eye
 >apparently but when it comes to an implant... they always seem
 >to leave an incriminating mark, now doesn't that just strike you
 >as a teensy weensy bit odd?

 >Perhaps someone out there can answer those simple little
 >questions.

 >Answers on a postcard to:

 >Dave.

 >Wake up Jim, you're on.


(Ummm, sniffle, snort, Hic, yawn) Sorry, I was just nipping, I
mean napping.

Uh, Magnums eh?  Yup, we sell Magnums, but only to adults over
32 years of age with specially marked livers. And it only comes
in Gripple Dripple.

Uh, what was we talkin' aboot?  Oh, I remember now.

Aliens.  As I argued with Dennis, uh, I forgot his last name. Oh
yah, Menace!   No, Stacey!  That's it, Stacey.  Anyway, there
appears to no rule.  Why some of us remember and some of us do
not remember as much or perhaps at all is part of the conundrum.

That things "tend to be going this way or that" is a waste of
Dennis' boundless energy... at least in my view.  And one good
reason fro this is that people, many people, have experiences
which they never report, at least not as being either anomalous
or related to UFO's or abduction.

In addition, that there appears to be a change in the manner in
which most of these events occur (i.e., with or without sighting
a UFO, etc.) what the hell difference does this make in light of
the _faster_ changing level of technology, communications and
reporting of these events faster than spit in a vacuum.  What's
changed more is the technology. Therefore, it becomes difficult
to draw conculsions as to the methods used by "them," assuming
there are any "them."

Kin I go back to sleep now, Dave?

Jim Mortellaro


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