From: Dave Bowden <email@example.com> Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 20:57:28 +0000 Fwd Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 10:06:58 -0400 Subject: Re: Get Real >From: Jim Mortellaro <Jsmortell@aol.com> >Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 14:06:34 EDT >Subject: Re: Get Real >To: firstname.lastname@example.org >>Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 19:40:31 +0000 >>From: Dave Bowden <email@example.com> >>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <firstname.lastname@example.org> >>Subject: Re: Get Real >>>Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 21:20:49 +0100 >>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <email@example.com> >>>From: John Rimmer <firstname.lastname@example.org> >>>Subject: Re: Get Real >>>>From: Jim Mortellaro <Jsmortell@aol.com> >>>>Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 14:49:47 EDT >>>>Subject: Re: Get Real >>>>To: email@example.com >>>>>Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 16:19:44 +0100 >>>>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <firstname.lastname@example.org> >>>>>From: John Rimmer <email@example.com> >>>>>Subject: Re: Get Real >>>>>Is this a peculiarly American thing, this emphasis on whether or >>>>>not aliens have the "right" to do this or that? Or the similar >>>>>concern that an individuals "rights" are being violated by >>>>>aliens. I've noticed it in a few posting on this list and >>>>>elsewhere, and it always seems to be Americans who raise the >>>>>point. >>>>It is an American thing, this emphasis on whether or not aliens >>>>have the "right" to do this or that. Especially when the "this >>>>or the that" is stalking, abducting and performing medical >>>>intrusions on our bodies. Actually, it should be a human thing, >>>>as Americans are not the only ones in this world with rights as >>>>human beings. In the UK, there are, I presume, safeguards >>>>against the violations of your human rights, are there not? >>><snip> >>>Of course there are safeguards against violations of our human >>>rights in Britain - you may have heard, for instance of Magna >>>Carta, which I believe still forms one of the bases of the >>>American legal code, and good on you for it. >>That is of course correct, the Magna Carta was drawn up by King >>John of England in 1215 and eventually became the basis for the >>American constitution. >>So I suppose in answer to the previous/previous posting... no it >>is not an American thing, it's something us Brits have just >>forgotten about. >Just my opinion, but most people with such protections under >their laws consider this to be either a local thing, or just do >not consider them. Americans consider it to be universal. So >sue us. Consider yourself sued >>>they can erase all >>>evidence of their existence. >>This may be getting off subject a bit but 'WHAT?' If as you say >>they can 'erase all evidence of their existence' then how do you >>explain the literally thousands of people world-wide who seem to >>remember being abducted?? >>Maybe the aliens just haven't got the hang of that 'memory >>erase' thang. >>They can dance across the universe in the blink of an eye >>apparently but when it comes to an implant... they always seem >>to leave an incriminating mark, now doesn't that just strike you >>as a teensy weensy bit odd? >>Perhaps someone out there can answer those simple little >>questions. >>Answers on a postcard to: >>Dave. >>Wake up Jim, you're on. >There appears to no rule. >Why some of us remember and some of us do not remember >as much or perhaps at all is part of the conundrum. >That things "tend to be going this way or that" is a waste of >Dennis' boundless energy... at least in my view. And one good >reason fro this is that people, many people, have experiences >which they never report, at least not as being either anomalous >or related to UFO's or abduction. >In addition, that there appears to be a change in the manner in >which most of these events occur (i.e., with or without sighting >a UFO, etc.) what the hell difference does this make in light of >the _faster_ changing level of technology, communications and >reporting of these events faster than spit in a vacuum. What's >changed more is the technology. Therefore, it becomes difficult >to draw conculsions as to the methods used by "them," assuming >there are any "them." Well exactly, assuming there are any "them" is the point I've tried to make but it always seems to get side-stepped by the quick talking used car salesmen of ufology. If they really wanted to wipe your memory... you wouldn't remember a thing, therefore you would not be able to write to a mailing list and whine about being abducted right! Oh, and while we're on the subject, of all the thousands who claim to be repeatedly abducted, who has ever taken a photograph of an alien? the odds are that amongst the thousands there must be someone who set a camera up linked to a motion detector, not hard to do these days considering our 'changing level of technology'. Unless the aliens are only interested in the people who wouldn't have even thought to do that. >Kin I go back to sleep now, Dave? Of course you can, sweet dreams. ZZZZZZZZZZ Dave. I have no memory of ever being abducted. Or perhaps I have... by the more professional aliens.
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