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Re: Get Real

From: Dave Bowden <grafikfx@netscapeonline.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 20:57:28 +0000
Fwd Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 10:06:58 -0400
Subject: Re: Get Real

 >From: Jim Mortellaro <Jsmortell@aol.com>
 >Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 14:06:34 EDT
 >Subject: Re: Get Real
 >To: updates@globalserve.net

 >>Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 19:40:31 +0000
 >>From: Dave Bowden <grafikfx@netscapeonline.co.uk>
 >>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
 >>Subject: Re: Get Real

 >>>Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 21:20:49 +0100
 >>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
 >>>From: John Rimmer <jrimmer@magonia.demon.co.uk>
 >>>Subject: Re: Get Real

 >>>>From: Jim Mortellaro <Jsmortell@aol.com>
 >>>>Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 14:49:47 EDT
 >>>>Subject: Re: Get Real
 >>>>To: updates@globalserve.net

 >>>>>Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 16:19:44 +0100
 >>>>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
 >>>>>From: John Rimmer <jrimmer@magonia.demon.co.uk>
 >>>>>Subject: Re: Get Real

 >>>>>Is this a peculiarly American thing, this emphasis on whether or
 >>>>>not aliens have the "right" to do this or that? Or the similar
 >>>>>concern that an individuals "rights" are being violated by
 >>>>>aliens. I've noticed it in a few posting on this list and
 >>>>>elsewhere, and it always seems to be Americans who raise the

 >>>>It is an American thing, this emphasis on whether or not aliens
 >>>>have the "right" to do this or that.  Especially when the "this
 >>>>or the that" is stalking, abducting and performing medical
 >>>>intrusions on our bodies. Actually, it should be a human thing,
 >>>>as Americans are not the only ones in this world with rights as
 >>>>human beings.  In the UK, there are, I presume, safeguards
 >>>>against the violations of your human rights, are there not?


 >>>Of course there are safeguards against violations of our human
 >>>rights in Britain - you may have heard, for instance of Magna
 >>>Carta, which I believe still forms one of the bases of the
 >>>American legal code, and good on you for it.

 >>That is of course correct, the Magna Carta was drawn up by King
 >>John of England in 1215 and eventually became the basis for the
 >>American constitution.

 >>So I suppose in answer to the previous/previous posting... no it
 >>is not an American thing, it's something us Brits have just
 >>forgotten about.

 >Just my opinion, but most people with such protections under
 >their laws consider this to be either a local thing, or just do
 >not consider them.  Americans consider it to be universal.  So
 >sue us.

Consider yourself sued

 >>>they can erase all
 >>>evidence of their existence.

 >>This may be getting off subject a bit but 'WHAT?' If as you say
 >>they can 'erase all evidence of their existence' then how do you
 >>explain the literally thousands of people world-wide who seem to
 >>remember being abducted??

 >>Maybe the aliens just haven't got the hang of that 'memory
 >>erase' thang.

 >>They can dance across the universe in the blink of an eye
 >>apparently but when it comes to an implant... they always seem
 >>to leave an incriminating mark, now doesn't that just strike you
 >>as a teensy weensy bit odd?

 >>Perhaps someone out there can answer those simple little

 >>Answers on a postcard to:


 >>Wake up Jim, you're on.

 >There appears to no rule.
 >Why some of us remember and some of us do not remember
 >as much or perhaps at all is part of the conundrum.

 >That things "tend to be going this way or that" is a waste of
 >Dennis' boundless energy... at least in my view.  And one good
 >reason fro this is that people, many people, have experiences
 >which they never report, at least not as being either anomalous
 >or related to UFO's or abduction.

 >In addition, that there appears to be a change in the manner in
 >which most of these events occur (i.e., with or without sighting
 >a UFO, etc.) what the hell difference does this make in light of
 >the _faster_ changing level of technology, communications and
 >reporting of these events faster than spit in a vacuum.  What's
 >changed more is the technology. Therefore, it becomes difficult
 >to draw conculsions as to the methods used by "them," assuming
 >there are any "them."

Well exactly, assuming there are any "them" is the point I've
tried to make but it always seems to get side-stepped by the
quick talking used car salesmen of ufology.

If they really wanted to wipe your memory... you wouldn't
remember a thing, therefore you would not be able to write to a
mailing list and whine about being abducted right!

Oh, and while we're on the subject, of all the thousands who
claim to be repeatedly abducted, who has ever taken a photograph
of an alien? the odds are that amongst the thousands there must
be someone who set a camera up linked to a motion detector, not
hard to do these days considering our 'changing level of

Unless the aliens are only interested in the people who wouldn't
have even thought to do that.

 >Kin I go back to sleep now, Dave?

Of course you can, sweet dreams.



I have no memory of ever being abducted.
Or perhaps I have... by the more professional aliens.

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