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Re: From Maxwell Burns

From: Andy Roberts <Brigantia@compuserve.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 13:48:46 -0400
Fwd Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 05:46:22 -0400
Subject: Re: From Maxwell Burns


 >Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 04:52:31 +0100
 >From: Roy J Hale <royjhale@netscapeonline.co.uk>
 >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
 >Subject: Re: From Maxwell Burns

Y'all,

As Rimmer has pointed out eleswhere the onus is on Maxwell Burns
to prove his allegations, not his critics.

 >Yes the "Crux" of the Sheffield Case has seen to be focused on
 >the name of the pilot. So let us clear the case once and for
 >all.

 >A little request for those researchers who don't believe that
 >there was some kind of Incident on the night in Question March
 >27th 1997' would you be able to produce all of the names of the
 >Nato Pilots who took part in this flight?

Well, I suppose so. We've done harder things. But, Roy, as there
is no indication other than Maxwell's deluded rantings that
there _was_ an incident that night we have no need to waste our
time naming the names. Otherwise we are doing Maxwell's research
for him into a case where only he has any belief invested that
something did happen! Tell you what - why don't I do his prison
sentence as well? Let's not have Max troubled by anything like
evidence when a simple pronunciation will do.

 >This way other researchers could then check to see if those Nato
 >Pilots named by those researchers are in fact still walking
 >about today?

No - how about doing it in the correct sequence Roy? Maxwell
gives us the name of the pilot and or co-pilot and we will then
do research as to whether those individuals ever existed etc etc
That's a promise.

 >Surely these researchers must know all of the names of the Nato
 >Pilots who flew on that mission on the night as they are adamant
 >that they all arrived back safely' for this reasoning at least
 >one of those researchers must have a list of the Nato Pilots
 >names / numbers who returned to the base intact?

You're looking down the wrong end of the telescope Roy!

 >If they haven't' would they care to enlighten everyone as to how
 >they know that no Nato Pilot was lost?

Or indeed whether or not he crashed into Santa and his sleigh,
or perhaps the guy in the helicopter on the Barrett Homes ad.
Or, well you get the picture.

Sensible UFO reserachers Roy do not just check things up because
_one_ person has imagined they happened and cannot provide
any further evidence or proof other than, ahhh, other than because
he says so. Puhleees!

 >Hopefully the researchers denying that any incident had occurred
 >and that no pilot was lost,  can then safely assure us all by
 >printing the full names / numbers of all those pilots concerned,
 >from which everyone could check, and if proved right' then this
 >will be a closed case once and for all.

See above. Put in idiot's language Roy:

1 - Maxwell Burns makes serious allegations about loss of life
     by UFO.

2 - He fails to come up with names.

3 -You then expect us to check everyone who was flying that night.

You see the flaw in this at all?

Gawd, I get home after a hard day working with criminals and
junkies, then we have to go back to UFO investigation basics
class, and all before tea!

Happy Trails

Andy





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