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MoD Lessens Scope Of Pope's X-Files Work

From: Stig Agermose <stig.agermose@get2net.dk>
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 03:02:09
Fwd Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 15:11:51 -0400
Subject: MoD Lessens Scope Of Pope's X-Files Work

Source: James Easton on 'alt.alien.visitors'.



From: "James Easton" <voyager@ukonline.co.uk>
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Ministry Do Not Investigate 'X-Files'
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 14:36:09 +0100

_Ministry Do Not Investigate 'X-Files'_

Contrary to the public statements made by Nick Pope, a senior
Civil Servant with the Ministry of Defence (MoD), the Ministry
have never investigated a case of 'alien abduction', crop
circles or 'animal mutilation by aliens'.


In a recent issue of 'NICK POPE'S WEIRD WORLD', a monthly
Internet column he writes, Pope remarked:

"Over the past few months I'd been becoming more bullish in my
response to certain people within ufology who'd been sniping at
me over the years. Nobody likes criticism, and I'd been getting
a fair bit - little of it constructive in nature. If people were
criticising my views on, say, Roswell, then fine. I wasn't
there, and so my view probably counts no more or no less than
anybody else who's followed the case with a reasonable degree of
interest. But it rankled when outsiders who'd probably never
even visited MOD Main Building started casting doubts on my
knowledge about - and access to - government and military UFO
files. I've worked for the MOD for over fourteen years now, and
three of those were spent researching and investigating UFO
sightings, alien abductions, crop circles, animal mutilations
and any other weird and wonderful reports that came my way".

Now, in response to direct questions I asked of them, the
Ministry formally refute any suggestion they have ever been
concerned with the investigations Pope alleges.

"The Ministry of Defence has not investigated a case of alien
abduction, crop circle formations or animal mutilation", they
confirm in a letter.

It's hardly a surprise to learn this, however, it is a statement
now on record and which dispels much of the UK 'X-files'

The Ministry also shoots down Pope's celebrated 'Fox Mulder'
image by explaining the full nature of his responsibilities and
extent of any 'UFO' involvement, revealing, "Mr Pope was
employed as an Executive Officer in Secretariat (Air Staff) 2.
His post was designated Sec(AS)2a. The main duties of the post
concern non- operational RAF activities overseas and diplomatic
clearance for military flights abroad".

It's exceptional that the Ministry have disclosed, especially to
a member of the public, exact duties which were carried out by
one of their staff.

I'm not surprised though; colleagues at the MoD are likely to be
dismayed by Pope's allegations.

In answer to my question of how much emphasis is placed on 'UFO'
related matters in the post which Pope occupied, the Ministry
confirm, "A small percentage of time is spent dealing with
reports from the public about alleged 'UFO' sightings and
associated public correspondence".

This is the true perspective of HM government's 'UFO' interest.
In context, the subject really is no more than a nuisance,
justifying only part-time clerical resources.

Pope occupied the 'UFO desk' at Secretariat (Air Staff) 2
between 1991 and 1994 and subsequently wrote 'Open Skies, Closed
Minds' and 'The Uninvited', the latter containing the accounts
of people who claim to have been experimented on by aliens.

His latest work, 'Operation Thunder Child' was released last
week and Pope declares, "Operation Thunder Child is a science
fiction novel set in the near future, and deals with the concept
of an escalating and hostile alien presence. What I've tried to
do is to tell the story in as realistic way as possible, drawing
on my official knowledge and experience of working at the
Ministry of Defence.

Accordingly, I use knowledge about UFOs and abductions picked up
during my three years researching and investigating these
phenomena, and also utilise information picked up while working
in the Air Force Operations Room (part of the Joint Operations
Centre) during the Gulf War".

It's difficult to reconcile Pope's view of his part-time tenure
at the 'UFO desk' against this unique insight provided by the

Sensational tales of 'alien encounters' will always sell and
perhaps we can safely say that by comparison there's not much of
a market for 'Diplomatic Clearance and Military Flights - the
Secret Files!'.

However, it's now a proven fact, at least according to his
employer, that Pope was only a part-time clerical worker,
perhaps for only a few hours each month, on the 'UFO desk'. His
main duties were completely unrelated and much more mundane.
It's a fact which isn't evident from his numerous interviews and

Pope also never officially investigated 'alien abductions', or
crop circles or 'alien animal mutilations' - or so say the MoD -
as he continues to boldly proclaim.

It is of course ludicrous to think that the MoD have even for a
moment considered these diverse facets of 'UFO' reports might
threaten 'defence of the realm', or feared that 'abductions' had
any substance in fact.

Still, all good fun and no harm done.

What would 'ufology' be without some 'liberal' interpretations
of people's experiences!

James Easton.


James Easton is Editor of the 'Voyager' newsletter and can be
contacted by e-mail at:


'Voyager On-line' is located on the World Wide Web at URL:


'NICK POPE'S WEIRD WORLD' can be found at URL:


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