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Re: Get Real

From: Sue Kovios <bradford@globalserve.net>
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:33:12 -0400
Fwd Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:40:45 -0400
Subject: Re: Get Real


 >From: Sharon Kardol <sharon@hotmix.com.au>
 >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
 >Subject: Re: Get Real
 >Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:41:31 +0800

 >>Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 01:22:50 -0500
 >>From: Amy Hebert <yelorose@swbell.net>
 >>Subject: Re: Get Real
 >>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <>

<snip>

 >You seem very defensive Amy, accusing at least three people so
 >far of ridiculing or debunking.  There is no way to prove the
 >case real or false, period.  It's subjective, each person's own
 >beliefs influence their acceptance/rejection of cases.  If
 >something doesn't sit right with me about this case I am sure
 >you can appreciate it as my opinion.

Well that is three of us, the only three who took this seriously
enough to bother asking questions.  It's quite apparent to me,
'judging' by the way we three have been treated by this
researcher, that this is all a big waste of time and no matter
what questions you ask, you will never be given a
straight-forward answer without defense.

I say it's time to end this tattered thread and move on to some
more productive and interesting items, unless of course Sharon
and Dave have more stamina to pursue this never-ending lack of
co-operation and continual criticism.  Even in private mail, I
have received nothing but abuse for asking questions and having
an opinion, and am accused of being 'nasty'.

I reviewed the web site and the pictures, and see things quite
differently, but I'm sure I'm wrong since I've never seen the
originals.  I'm sure someone more deserving will get some
answers somewhere and would have the courtesy to share them with
us, perhaps one of these researchers that Amy has shared this
with (as she stated).  Or perhaps Amy would like to share with
the rest of us who has been afforded the privilege of reviewing
the information.  Like Amy says, we are all in this together,
right? But is there room for this attitude towards anyone who
asks questions?

Sharon, I respect the questions you are asking because these
'are' questions an interested researcher would ask.
Unfortunately, they are not being recognized as such, nor were
mine.  It's very hard to respond any other way when nothing is
being given to respond to except defensiveness.

I am curious what kind of dog (that is mentioned on the web
site) these people had.  Is that a legitimate question?

Hey Amy, you won't see my 'name in lights' on this topic anymore
unless you are willing to share with everyone on this list what
you are so willing to share in private.  Unfortunately I can no
longer take this thread seriously, nor tolerate being called
confused and uneducated by someone who can't keep their stories
straight and tries to manipulate everything I say. This is a
difficult field to balance, but getting defensive answers makes
it even more difficult.

I'm not giving in, I've just had enough.  There is a difference,
Amy. Instead of winning, you've lost someone who was interested.
And I have observed how you have responded similarly to the
other interested parties, but it is their choice if they want to
pursue this.

You claim I'm picking on you and am constantly trying to change
the thread, but looking back it was you changing it. It's no
longer about 'Close Encounters' anymore is it?  And if it's okay
with Amy, I refer to Dave's message in this regard, since it is
in the same thread.

Sorry for butting in, Sharon, but I didn't want to be accused of
'changing the thread' and I felt your remarks needed validation.

Sharon and Dave, good luck in your research.  Keep asking all
the right questions.  Perhaps one of you is more deserving and
will get further than I.  My shovel broke, so I can't dig
anymore. And good luck to you too Amy, sincerely. Thank you for
your valuable contributions and enlightenment.  You deserve
respect for putting time and money into this case, regardless.

Sue

"Truth is a shining goddess, always veiled, always distant,
never wholly approachable, but worthy of all the devotion of
which the human spirit is capable." -Bertrand Russell


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