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Re: British Ufology Has Been Reborn!

From: Henny van der Pluijm <hvdp@worldonline.nl>
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 06:45:48 +0200 (MET DST)
Fwd Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 01:53:18 -0400
Subject: Re: British Ufology Has Been Reborn!

Hello Andy and list,

At 21:40 26-10-99 -0400, you wrote:
 >Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:30:44 -0400
 >From: Andy Roberts <Brigantia@compuserve.com>
 >Subject: Re: British Ufology Has Been Reborn!
 >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>

 >Seeings as various people have been menting my name and my
 >colleagues' I thought I'd better reply before my tea.

 >I fail to understand why saying that _all_ UFOs have the
 >potential to be IFOs causes such a problem. Many, many
 >_good_ cases in the UK, which as Jenny points out have been
 >held as ET and/or unexplained have fallen to the IFO
 >explanation. Surely this is a _good_ thing?

Sure, Andy.

 >The bald facts are that as a  great many cases have been
 >downgraded from UFO to IFO, and that no UFOs have been (yet)
 >proven to be ET in origin.

That's true, because to begin with, nobody knows how to prove a
UFO to be of ET origin. After all, we have no access to ET's
home planet and can't verify whether a craft or artefact comes
from there.

 >That fact alone makes it reasonable to suggest that _all_ UFOs
 >are thus resolvable.

Well, that depends. In the first place, it is quite firmly
established that some UFO cases stand the test of time, ie they
are still unresolved even after decades.

If we were talking here about vague light in the sky, glows and
obscure photographs and all that, your statement would be true
that all UFOs are potentially resolvable.

As anyone who professes to be a serious UFO investigator should
know however, there are also cases in which solid flying objects
fly at several times the speed of sound, suddenly turn on a dime
and evade pursuing fighter aircraft. All in such a manner that
we can see a technology at display that is clearly not human in
origin. Cases such as these are recorded on radar and witnessed
by reliable investigators or hundreds of members from the

The question whether we would call these craft ET seems to me
rather academic and is in fact a sidepoint. The real point is
that there is an intelligence operating in our skies from time
to time that is clearly not ours. And those UFOs are only solved
when we label them as such.

I have such a suspicion, however, that you are not inclined to
put a label on them that suggest "non human intelligently
operated craft". Therefore I am afraid that ironically to you,
my friend, these tried and true unsolved cases will remain


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