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Re: British ufology Has Been Reborn!

From: Jenny Randles <nufon@currantbun.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:33:25 +0100
Fwd Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 03:38:34 -0400
Subject: Re: British ufology Has Been Reborn!

 >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
 >From: Jerome Clark <jkclark@frontiernet.net>
 >Subject: Re: British ufology Has Been Reborn!
 >Date: Tue, 26 Oct 99 11:07:48 PDT

 >>>>From: Jenny Randles <nufon@currantbun.com>
 >>>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
 >>>>Subject: Re: British ufology Has Been Reborn!
 >>>>Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 20:54:23 +0100

 >What you're discussing here is a form of ball lightning, a
 >generally recognized, accepted meteorological phenomenon.  Why
 >are you lumping BL in with UFOs? I think that no serious
 >ufologist would disagree that on occasion BL, like lots of other
 >things in nature, gets mistaken for a UFO.  That, however,
 >doesn't make BL (or any other unusual but known natural
 >phenomenon) a UFO.

Of course, it does. Although as you know I prefer the term UAP
for such cases to try to form a distinction. If a witness
reports something odd in the sky that they do not recognise they
do so as an unidentified flying object. My argument is that all
too often they do so to a UFO group or the media not to a
physicist. As such ufology attracts many BL cases.

Further than that I also suspect - from cases I have worked upon
and discussions I have had with BL experts - that there is a
rare form of 'Super BL' that nearly always gets reported way out
of context of a met phenomenon especially when it occurs outside
of recognised weather conditions (eg a storm). As such I am
pretty certain we have valuable UAP data that would benefit BL
researchers but they rarely get to see it because they run a
mile from the public image ufology generates. Indeed from people
like Dr Paul Davies, who has researched BL, and Ralph Noyes from
the MoD, I know this is their view as well.

But the basic point is that all sightings reported as UFOs
remain so until identified. Even ones that are finally proven to
be BL, or Super BL, or related forms of atmospheric phenomena.
Otherwise who makes the arbitrary decision that a UFO really
isnt a UFO because it was a natural phenomenon? And on what
criteria? How can we single out cases that are not UFOs because
they are just some sort of energy phenomenon and ones that are
because that therory doesnt seem to work. Surely the only
acceptable definition is that the phenomenon is unidentified by
the witness? It then becomes our task to try to identify what it
was. If it turns out to be BL it still started off as a UFO
report. These investigations provide key lessons for the rest of
the UFO evidence that are all too easy to miss if we junk such
cases as 'not really UFOs'.

 >I look forward to reading your book, which I have no doubt will
 >be an excellent one.  As you know, I have the greatest respect
 >for you and your work.  I think, however, that my point remains.
 >We've seen some dreary instances in recent months on this very
 >list where some strutting, self- styled "skeptic" has announced
 >his explanation for a classic UFO case, only to have it
 >disintegrate virtually upon impact. I am not, I hasten to add,
 >putting you into this category.

Appreciated. But I dont think you should read too much into this
book. It is an exercise in using the experience of three long
term field investigators to try to make ufologists think more
about the cases that can be solved and what we should do with
that knowledge. Its not a treatise on how to do ufology, or a
revolutionary idea about how to interpret the evidence or a book
that aims to debunk ufology out of existence. Its aims really
are very modest ones.

Best wishes,

Jenny Randles

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