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Re: British Ufology Has Been Reborn!

From: John Rimmer <jrimmer@magonia.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 21:07:59 +0100
Fwd Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:36:02 -0400
Subject: Re: British Ufology Has Been Reborn!

 >Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:30:44 -0400
 >From: Andy Roberts <Brigantia@compuserve.com>
 >Subject: Re: British Ufology Has Been Reborn!
 >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>

 >>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
 >>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark@frontiernet.net>
 >>Subject: Re: British Ufology Has Been Reborn!
 >>Date: Mon, 25 Oct 99 09:42:17 PDT

 >Jerry wrote

 >>>These are not the sorts of statements designed to encourage
 >>>confidence in your judgment, my friend. They tell us more about
 >>>you (and maybe about UFOIN as well), I'm afraid, than about the
 >>>UFO phenomenon or the ETH.

 >Innit great how Jerry uses 'my friend' when he's attempting
 >sarcasm? Dave's (a Doctor of Folklore I hasten to add) statement
 >tells us about his experience after 20 years in the field and
 >his research Jerry. It tells us what _he_ has come to believe
 >about the UFO phenomenon, based on more research than most
 >ufologists will ever be able to shake a stick at. And Dave has
 >changed his views dramatically in the fifteen or so years I have
 >known him from being postive that some UFO cases were ETH in
 >nature to a far more sceptical position. All based on research
 >and investigation. Surely not a bad way of reaching conclusions?

You forget Andy. Researchers don't come to sceptical positions
because they've studied cases and witnesses for many years
without finding any evidence for extraterrestrial intervention.
It's because, as Jerry explained a while ago, they're frightened
of being ridiculed by those nasty scientists.

 >>>One hopes that this sort of empty posturing -- especially coming
 >>>from someone smart enough to know better -- disappears from
 >>>ufological discourse soon.  It is, as we have already seen
 >>>demonstrated repeatedly, much less than helpful, and among other
 >>>things, it betrays a fairly shocking ignorance of the literature
 >>>of astrobiology.

 >'Smart enough to know better' - sheer brilliance Jerry! It's not
 >empty posturing - see above. 'Astrobiology'? Yor avin' a laarf
 >incha? Don't we have to actually have some hard biological
 >evidence before we can talk about such a thing?

By "the literature of astrobiology" Jerry means presumably the
writings of his friend Michael Swords, someone who has his own
agenda of denying Darwinian evolution. Astrobiology (is this
what used to be called "exobiology") has the rare distinction of
being a science completely without data.

John Rimmer
Magonia Magazine

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