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Re: Scientists Switch To Warp Drive - Hatch

From: Larry Hatch <larryhat@jps.net>
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 02:18:49 -0800
Fwd Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 14:45:20 +0000
Subject: Re: Scientists Switch To Warp Drive - Hatch

 >From: Tim Haley <TimHaley@aol.com>
 >Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 22:43:13 EST
 >Subject: Scientists Switch To Warp Drive
 >To: updates@sympatico.ca

 >Hello Errol, list:

 >A recent news article at The Guardian online discusses the
 >development of exotic new technology for space propulsion.

 >The idea of a 'warp' drive as presented on the Star Trek science
 >fiction series is apparently now being taken seriously by
 >mainstream scientists.

 >Quoting from the article:

 >"This extraordinary idea has been adopted by a growing group of
 >world-ranking physicists who believe that soon spaceships could
 >be designed to run on energy extracted from empty space -
 >enabling them to fly for centuries without fuel."

 >"It has also been revealed that the United States Air Force and
 >the US Navy have set up secret projects aimed at developing
 >'zero-point energy' engines, while the US space agency NASA has
 >launched its Breakthrough Propulsion Physics project to
 >investigate similar rocket devices."

 >"In addition, British Aerospace has confirmed it has launched a
 >research programme - codenamed Project Greenglow - to study 'the
 >possibility of the control of gravitational fields'."

 >"The basis for a zero-point engine rests on the recent startling
 >discovery that a vacuum, far from being a pocket of nothingness,
 >actually churns and seethes with unseen activity."

 >Additional details in the news article can be found at:


 >Conference weblink


Hello Tim:

Ah yes, the "Casimir Effect" after the theories of Hendrik
Casimir who predicted that two parallel plates, perfectly
polished and held just atoms apart, would be pushed together due
to an imbalance of virtual photons of different wavelengths. VPs
would not pop into existence between the plates if their
wavelengths were too long, while those outside could. Thus the
imbalance and a tiny net force.

This force was compared to the weight of a barely visible spec
of dust. Two permanent magnets would pull together with many
many many times that force... and you cannot get continuous
energy from them either, just a one-time slap!

I was surprised to see the name Harold Puthoff in the article
you kindly linked above. I recall reading of his PSI experiments
at SRI International with Russell Targ, badly criticized by the
Great Randi. It seems that Uri Geller had taken them in with
stage trickery.

The name of Nobelist Harry Kroto (Univ. of Sussex?) lends more
weight to the enterprise. I think Kroto was one of the early
people suggesting a new form of carbon named after Buckminster
Fuller, a nearly spherical and hollow molecule in the geometric
form of a "Bucky Ball" as some call it.

Nevertheless, its interesting work, and I hope that something
comes of it. I don't see any solution to the energy crunch
coming out of this, not yet anyway.

I just hope I get this email off before the lights go out in

Best wishes

- Larry Hatch

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