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Re: UFO Skeptics - Kaeser

From: Steven Kaeser <Steve@konsulting.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 06:06:29 -0500
Fwd Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 15:10:52 +0000
Subject: Re: UFO Skeptics - Kaeser

 >Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:20:32 +0000
 >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@sympatico.ca>
 >From: John Rimmer <jrimmer@magonia.demon.co.uk>
 >Subject: Re: UFO Skeptics

 >>From: Robert Gates <RGates8254@aol.com>
 >>Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 23:57:19 EST
 >>Subject: Re: UFO Skeptics -
 >>To: updates@sympatico.ca


 >>Don't even have to subscribe. You just have to understand the
 >>words Pelicans, Lighthouse, Venus, misidentification, hoax,
 >>stars and you have understood the entire list and most of the
 >>postings without reading one message. :)


 >The fact that in his last paragraph Gates claims to understand
 >sceptical arguments without bothering to read them speaks


There are problems with extremists on both sides of this debate.

The "arguments" or "theories" referenced by Robert have been
fully discussed and there are many who don't accept them (in
every case where that theory has been suggested). To understand
that Venus has caused UFO reports is logical, but to suggest
that Venus is the cause of a sighting without first checking to
seen where it was in the sky at the time is not. While I was a
member of the UFO Research List, I have opted to not join the
new list that James has put together. I may be wrong, but the
apparent goal in this change to effect some sort of control over
the debate, or at least to direct it's thrust. James feels that
this is a "scientific" approach to the Ufology. Others disagree.

Don't get me wrong. I think the list is a fine idea, and I hope
they have fun and perhaps develop good theories and arguments to
put forth. But I think it will always come down to the anecdotal
component in this and the degree to which we accept it as fact.
Some find it easier than others to dismiss anecdotal statements
as inaccurate.

It will be interesting to see if this group reacts to Richard
Hall's new publication "UFO Evidence II", which is being
released this month by Scarecrow Press. As an update to the
historic 1964 NICAP publication I expect it will provide a great
number of references that could become the subject of a
"scientific" discussion. I would note that Scarecrow Press
primarily publishes library and reference material, and Hall's
book is nearly 800 pages in length.


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