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Re: Easton Threatens Lawsuit - Mortellaro

From: Jim Mortellaro <Jsmortell@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 19:06:08 EDT
Fwd Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 12:29:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Easton Threatens Lawsuit - Mortellaro


 >Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 23:57:53 +0100
 >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@home.com>
 >From: John Rimmer <jrimmer@magonia.demon.co.uk>
 >Subject: Re: Easton Threatens Lawsuit

 >>From: Serge Salvaille <sergesa@sympatico.ca>
 >>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@home.com>
 >>Subject: Re: Easton Threatens Lawsuit - Salvaille
 >>Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 14:22:40 -0400

 >>>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark@frontiernet.net>
 >>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@home.com>
 >>>Subject: Re: Easton Threatens Lawsuit
 >>>Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:33:23 -0500

 >>>The only thing that matters in the present discussion is that
 >>>one sued the other and silenced her free expression - a
 >>>silencing, I might add, that continues even to this day. Ever
 >>>wondered why Jenny is not participating publicly in this
 >>>discussion...

 >>[...]

 >>(Friedman)

 >>>Suing his critics
 >>>simply because they said something that hurt his feelings - and
 >>>that's all they did; he could not demonstrate empirically that
 >>>the criticisms had any other effect than that - is, however,
 >>>indefensible - as, by your failed defense of it, you are
 >>>demonstrating yourself.

 >><snip>

 >>2. Can you demonstrate empirically that Friedman did not have
 >>anything else than his feelings hurt?

 >He himself said in a previous posting that his subsequent
 >lecture tours and media appearances were unaffected by anything
 >Jenny Randles wrote:

 >Quote - "I still seem to be the same stature as I was. Did a
 >bunch of lectures and media appearances after all that. Response
 >seemed to me to be excellent. But then I am biased."

 >Obviously the only thing hurt was his ego. In English law there
 >is a difference between libel and "common abuse". To prove libel
 >you have to demonstrate that either your livelihood or your
 >reputation was damaged. Friedman admits in that sentence that
 >neither was, so his attempted libel action had no validity and
 >was mere bluster.

 >John Rimmer


Dear John, Listers and Errol,

First, abuse is never common. Were it so, then life would be
worth the living for only a very few royal sociopaths. So much
for Brit law.

Second, I have been accused of _not_ taking the subjects firmly
ensconced to this list's objectives... seriously. To which I
freely admit. Wait, there is a point. Honest. Having admitted to
feelings of shameless amusement over some of the horse hockey I
read here, I will explain further that there are some subjects
which are simply overworked, none of our freaking business,
fraught with libel (at least potentially, or perilously close
anyway), aimed at hurting not debating and well, I could go on.

So, having said alla that stuff... I have this to say about
that... Stan the Man Friedman has never in the history of my
awareness, ever been anything but a gentleman. For his efforts
at that, he has been criticized mercilessly, and without
restraint, some of you have chosen him to be the temple of doom,
an alta cocka with the same line of horse hockey at every
meeting (which is a crock of cocka) and worse. Some of you
simply cannot refrain from complete and unbridled criticism of
the man at every turn. If I were Stan (and if I were Stan and
also Sicilian) I would aks alla my uncles, particularly uncle
Toto, to do a humongous number of kneecaps of bListers herein
... or on, or whatever.

Very few people know that although I am Sicilian (Palermo none
the less), I am also derived of a tribe of Jews from Hungary and
Rumania, by the name of Schwartz. Or as Mel Brooks would say,
"Day Schwartzes!" whilst referring to the maternal side of
Morty. In 1935 the Schwartzes were about 100. By 1945 they were
two. So much for International Laws... not to say moral ones...

Which is why I sometimes come out with not only a Sicilian quip,
but a genuine Yiddish one too. And to you, Stan (my man) I give
the following advise, Ignore the assholes, for "Asakh mentshn
vern groys ven zey shteyen oyf yenems shoys."

Some people grow tall by standing on the shoulders of others.
And some, as Frank Herbert wrote in Dune (paraphrased): There
was once a fishing boat which sank in the water. The depth was
such as the height of less than two man standing one atop the
other. Which is the way one of the fishermen saved himself. By
standing on the shoulders of the other fisherman, the one who
was drowning.


Love and respect to all of you,


Jim




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