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Re: Psychological Trauma - Mortellaro

From: Jim Mortellaro <Jsmortell@aol.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 10:42:49 EST
Fwd Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 18:44:43 -0500
Subject: Re: Psychological Trauma - Mortellaro

 >Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 02:38:23 -0500
 >To: ufoupdates@home.com
 >From: John Velez <johnvelez.aic@verizon.net>
 >Subject: Re: Psychological Trauma

 >>Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 22:55:32 -0500
 >>From: Ron Cecchini <Ron.Cecchini@GD-CS.COM>
 >>Subject: Psychological Trauma [was: UFO/ET Book For Children]
 >>To: UFO UpDates <ufoupdates@home.com>

 >>>Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 13:07:39 -0400
 >>>To: ufoupdates@home.com
 >>>From: John Velez <johnvelez.aic@verizon.net>
 >>>Subject: Re: UFO/ET Book For Children

 >>>If so, has any consideration been given to the fact that; a ten
 >>>or twelve year old who 'may be' having disturbing UFO/alien
 >>>experiences already, and who has not yet made any connection
 >>>between those experiences and UFOs/aliens (on their own,) are
 >>>being "introduced" to an "explanation" that they may wrongly (or
 >>>rightly) accept and cling to for life?


 >Hiya Ron,

 >You wrote:

 >>Color me curious, but I'd be really interested in hearing the
 >>stories of those who've had to go through what you went through:
 >>the questioning, the doubts, the fear, the paranoia, the "Am I
 >>losing my mind?", the slow unravelling of the clues, etc.

 >>I have a fairly vivid imagination, and I'm seeing a
 >>"psychological thriller" of sorts playing out in my head, and I
 >>can't help but be very interested to hear what the actual steps
 >>were that some of you had to take.

 >I hope you don't mind if I get 'lazy' but I'm just going to do a
 >cut/paste from a note I wrote to someone else privately
 >recently. I hope it will answer your question.

 >_Before_ I went to Hopkins I subjected myself to a complete
 >psychological evaluation. I did that for two reasons.

 >1. I honestly believed that I might be losing my mind because I
 >was 'seriously' entertaining the idea that the
 >experiences/events were based in physical reality. That thought
 >was so repugnant to me (on many levels) that I chose to question
 >my own sanity before accepting something so outrageous as being

 >Just a note:

 >I 'passed' with flying colors. In fact, the shrink was so
 >complimentary of me during my evaluation that I felt embarrassed
 >at times. The point is, other than some 'normal range' neurosis,
 >(doesn't interfere with my ability to function in the world) I
 >checked out just fine. In all candor there were some issues with
 >'anger' and which is something I've kinda had all my life, and
 >some unresolved anxieties, but no 'major' glitches. I'm
 >generally stable, in good touch with my feelings and the people
 >around me, and my intellectual faculties are functional and

Dear Gentlemen, List and Errol,

I shall inject my own edema into this thread unwarranted, as I
have already been in it.

 >2. I didn't 'know' Hopkins and therefore I did not 'trust' him
 >to give me a completely objective/unbiased evaluation. He
 >-earned- that trust from me over time. A period of about six

 >Briefly, about Budd:

 >I don't know what your opinion of him is Ron. There is a lot of
 >BS out there about Budd and his character. All I can tell you
 >from my own fist hand experience is that he is an intelligent
 >and honorable person who conducts his 'business' (work with
 >abductees) in a completely straight, professional, and above
 >board manner. No 'leading', no 'contaminating' no none of the
 >things that he is accused of (usually) by people who have never
 >spent any time studying him live, in-person, and close-up.
 >Negative comments always seem to come from folks who really do
 >not know him at all. If you'll notice, the folks that tend to
 >'defend' Budd when such attacks occur are people that _know_
 >him personally.

On a personal note, I think it is important to say a few words
on the subject of hypnosis as relates to two men, Budd Hopkins
and Dr. David Jacobs. I know Budd and respect and love the man.
He is that kind of guy. You meet him and he just imposes a sense
of well being and conveys a warm and wonderful impression of a
desire to help. His is a passionate and devoted work. Dr. Jacobs
I do not know, except by his writings and what others say about
him, others whose opinion I respect. Highly. And his is an
equally passionate and focused desire to determine a truth.

Having said all that, I find it fascinating that those regressed
by each, each group, Budd's and Dave's, seem to share the same
reasoning regarding the intentions of the alien abductors. Dr.
Dave's clients share the opinion, generally, that the aliens are
evil in their intent. Budd's groups shares another less benign
view over the alien abductors.

Interesting if not telling. And I said, "If Not Telling!" For
this is another datum and nothing more. Whether to draw
conclusions from the datum is the pervue of the skeptibunker,
not the researcher.

 >The bottom line is; I was very careful and thorough about how I
 >looked into my own 'case'. I went to the very best people I
 >could find. With all sincerity, I have come by my opinions and
 >beliefs honestly. It hasn't been easy.

 >That is why I react to certain "abductees" the way I do. Keeping
 >the noise level down in an environment like the Internet is just
 >mission impossible. It's like a public toilet. Anybody can walk
 >in and drop a stinking load. But there is a 'core' of solid
 >people with solid cases that cry out for further investigation.
 >The din created by a certain faction (mostly over the Internet)
 >makes it all the harder for folks to focus on these more
 >'tangible' cases.

Here is an interesting point. What you consider noise may not be
noise but another point of view, which often brings out a level
of angst from you John. Noise. In general, and in business,
noise is a positive thing. The more noise, the more people pay
attention. There can be a parallel in this situation.

I would have you define noise. Specifically what is this noise? Is
it that you do not agree or do not believe what is being said by
those guilty of noise? Or, is it that you just do not like the tone
or direction of attitude of these noisey people?


Anger is something which must be controlled or properly directed.
Otherwise it may flare at the wrong times. Angst diminishes
one's credibility. It demeans those whom it is directed and
makes the group look as if it is devisive. It ain't. Largely. So


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