From: John Velez <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 03:56:31 -0500 Fwd Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 08:23:07 -0500 Subject: Re: Psychological Trauma - Velez >From: Jim Mortellaro <Jsmortell@aol.com> >Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 10:42:49 EST >Subject: Re: Psychological Trauma >To: email@example.com >>Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 02:38:23 -0500 >>To: firstname.lastname@example.org >>From: John Velez <email@example.com> >>Subject: Re: Psychological Trauma >>>Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 22:55:32 -0500 >>>From: Ron Cecchini <Ron.Cecchini@GD-CS.COM> >>>Subject: Psychological Trauma [was: UFO/ET Book For Children] >>>To: UFO UpDates <firstname.lastname@example.org> >>>>Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 13:07:39 -0400 >>>>To: email@example.com >>>>From: John Velez <firstname.lastname@example.org> >>>>Subject: Re: UFO/ET Book For Children Hi All, You wroye: >Having said all that, I find it fascinating that those regressed >by each, each group, Budd's and Dave's, seem to share the same >reasoning regarding the intentions of the alien abductors. Dr. >Dave's clients share the opinion, generally, that the aliens are >evil in their intent. Budd's groups shares another less benign >view over the alien abductors. >Interesting if not telling. And I said, "If Not Telling!" For >this is another datum and nothing more. Whether to draw >conclusions from the datum is the pervue of the skeptibunker, >not the researcher. The kinds of negative things that your 'off-the-top' comments imply is an insult to the intelligence and individuality of anyone of the bright, and decent individuals that attend those meetings. Do you know Harold Egeln? Harold was among the first group of people that Budd ever investigated and worked with. Harold, along with many others, is of a decidedly 'New Age' - benevolent space brothers bent. Several of the people who regularly attend Budd's groups are also members of Harold's S.P.A.C.E. group here in New York. Although Harold and Budd each hold vastly divergent views/ideas about the nature of the 'abductors' they get along famously and Harold and the members of S.P.A.C.E. have always been a welcome addition to any meetings at Budd's place. In fact, one of the things I always liked most about the people who attended those groups was their diversity of views on the subject. The differences of opinion was what served to fuel many of the interesting and enjoyable discussions we conducted. For those who know nothing about what is being discussed in terms of the meetings that Budd hosted, and the folks who attended them, I offer the following: A majority of the people would only get to attend maybe one meeting per year. Budd went out of his way to invite different people each time. He wanted to give everyone a chance to attend and he seemed to enjoy mixing and matching personalities that might make the proceedings more interesting. One of the regulars is a Manhattan psychologist who is a hard core skeptic. He was usually around to question just about anything that came up during the discussions. Ole Jimbo fails to mention that. The only reason I attended almost all of them (about four such meetings a year) was because Budd invited me so that I could fill everybody in on what we had been up to lately in terms of developing IF, any media; TV, radio, etc. that we had participated in, or any interesting new cases or developments that may have come along. Usually Budd would start things off by asking the group a question and then giving each person an opportunity to answer or comment on it. The discussions would open up from there and off we'd go. I'm here to tell you that in spite of Mortellaro's purely imagined generalizations, there were as many differing points of view as there were attendees at those meetings. See Jimbo, I can say stuff like that because I actually got to know those folks personally. And unlike yourself, over a year-long period of time. Mortellaro's unfounded comment suggests 'consensus' of some kind. Nothing could ever be farther from the truth. He presumes to make this outrageous and unfounded statement about "group philosophy" as if we were all 'Hopkins cultists' or mindless drones that shared the same beliefs. And, as if he actually _knew_ what the hell he was talking about. News-flash Mr. M! There is no 'consensus', either real - or as in this case - 'imagined' among those who attend Budd's groups. Period. BTW Docca, some 'puppies' are hard to house-break. Keep a lot of toweling and plastic garbage bags in stock. Happy pooper-scooping. ;) John Velez Former-Webmaster Budd Hopkins' Intruders Foundation A.I.C. - Abduction Information Center www.spacelab.net/~jvif/default.htm email@example.com "Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of your own mind."
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