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Re: Psychological Trauma - Velez

From: John Velez <johnvelez.aic@verizon.net>
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 10:30:19 -0500
Fwd Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2001 11:04:31 -0500
Subject: Re: Psychological Trauma - Velez


 >Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 06:54:10 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
 >From: Nick Balaskas <nikolaos@yorku.ca>
 >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@home.com>
 >Subject: Re: Psychological Trauma - Balaskas

 >>Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 13:24:30 -0500
 >>To: ufoupdates@home.com
 >>From: John Velez <johnvelez.aic@verizon.net>
 >>Subject: Re: Psychological Trauma

 ><snip>

 >>I'm sorry that you've mentioned this in public Nick. Although I
 >>do mention my family members from time to time, I try to keep
 >>them out of it and in the background as much as I can. My son is
 >>a 26 year-old young man with whole life in front of him and a
 >>mind of his own. I don't know if _he_ would want this kind of
 >>information broadcast and discussed in a public forum. I am the
 >>'activist' in the family. They have not chosen to be as 'public'
 >>or 'proactive' as I am. I will be happy to discuss this with you
 >>privately if you wish. But not on-list. You are free to ask me
 >>anything you wish in terms of myself, but please ask me
 >>privately if it's ok _before_ bringing my family members into
 >>the discussion.

 >John, you would certainly have been very justified if your
 >response to my e-mail reply was a lot more severe. People's
 >privacy must be respected and protected. Although my e-mail
 >reply was addressed to you with a blind carbon copy sent to a
 >mutual friend of ours who was also present at that dinner in
 >Toronto, I regret and accept full blame that it somehow ended up
 >on UFO UpDates.

Not entirely your fault Nick. I want you to know (publicly) that
I really like you on a personal level, and I have always admired
and respected the work you do voluntarily and on your own time.
I have no bad feelings or anger over this 'fub.' As far as I'm
concerned it is a non-issue. I just needed to say it just in
case 'somebody else' gets it into their head to drag my family
members into any of these discussions. It's ok for me to do it
if I choose to, but not for anyone else to presume that's it ok
to do so. I needed to 'draw a line' in the sand. :) Nothing
personal Nick. I think the world of you and I know that you
would never intentionally cross those (personal) lines.

 >>>Apart from scoop marks, which suggest that tissue samples were
 >>>taken, have others experiencers reported similar alien(?)
 >>>surgeries, to correct various medical conditions?

 >>Yes, others have reported the same kind of thing and some have
 >>even reported 'spontaneous remission' from different life
 >>threatening disorders. I have absolutely no idea how true any of
 >>those claims may be. But that they _are_ reported, I must answer
 >>in the affirmative.

 >There are very few published accounts of such spontaneous
 >remissions or cures associated with UFO experiences or alien
 >encounters that I know of. Are you familiar with many more such
 >cases? Is this something that has been overlooked that should be
 >investigated further (while maintaining the full privacy of all
 >the individuals involved, of course)? Are there other things
 >that may have also been overlooked or not generally reported
 >which are common to many experiencers?

I hope I didn't give the impression that there are "many" such
cases. In fact, they are _rare_ if you go by the hundreds of
reports I have received from people over the years. Only two or
three such cases that I can think of as opposed to literally
_hundreds_ of written reports I have received/archived in my own
files.

 >>>Experienced
 >>>surgeons should be able to say something about the surgical
 >>>techniques used by examining the scars and tell if internal
 >>>stitches or other foreign material are present.

 >>Yes, they should. Only I didn't know at the time that UFOs or
 >>abduction may have had anything to do with it. We made the
 >>discovery of the identical (twin) scars, one over each knee when
 >>my son was 15. That was _years_ before I made any connection
 >>between the 'strangeness' in my life and UFOs/ alien
 >>intervention.

 >John, on UFO UpDates you have mentioned about an experience your
 >mother had which she understood as a religious one. You had a
 >different interpretation of it. Did your mother's experience
 >pre-date the strangeness in your life?

That was in the 50's sometime. I was about 8 or 9 when my mom
had that experience with the sphere of light that came through
the wall. She "interpreted" the "light" as a manifestation of
Jesus coming to comfort her at a time of great grief and worry
for her.

Those kinds of "lights" are reported by "abductees" all the
time. Either the "abductees" are all having 'religious'
experiences, or my mom had an "abduction" related experience.
Or, some 'other' explanation that we just haven't thought of
yet. That she _did_ see something is beyond question for me
though. My mother was one of the most honest, sober, and sincere
people that I have ever known. She saw "something." Something
that she described as a floating sphere of very bright light.

 >Could it be that all such
 >experiences are part of the same phenomena, and if so, cannot be
 >studied in isolation if we hope to truly understand what is
 >happening?

Your guess is as good as mine or anybody else's Nick. I'd much
rather think that "Jesus" is responsible than some "alien force"
from Tralfamador or some such place.


Warmest regards, your friend always,

John Velez

                       A.I.C. - Abduction Information Center
                       www.spacelab.net/~jvif/default.htm
                                johnvelez.aic@verizon.net
     "Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of your own mind."





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