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Re: Psychological Trauma - Randle

From: Kevin Randle <KRandle993@aol.com>
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 13:14:03 EST
Fwd Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 09:51:34 -0500
Subject: Re: Psychological Trauma - Randle

 >Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 10:43:42 -0500
 >To: ufoupdates@home.com
 >From: John Velez <johnvelez.aic@verizon.net>
 >Subject: Re: Psychological Trauma

 >>From: Kevin Randle <KRandle993@aol.com>
 >>Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 15:57:30 EST
 >>Subject: Re: Psychological Trauma
 >>To: ufoupdates@home.com

 >>>From: Jim Mortellaro <Jsmortell@aol.com>
 >>>Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 09:54:33 EST
 >>>Subject: Re: Psychological Trauma
 >>>To: ufoupdates@home.com


 >Hello Kevin,

 >You write:

 >>The real point is the abduction researchers know what is
 >>happening but they fail to understand the significance. And
 >>that, I believe, is the point that Jim is making.

 >I find it amusing that Jim made his point so 'clearly' that
 >everybody else has to (interpret) "guess" as to what he may have
 >meant. I'm going to ask you the same thing as I asked

 >Show me the poll or the interviews with a substantial group of
 >either Budd, David, or John Mack's clients that substantiates
 >these outrageous claims that they 'uniformly' all share the
 >_same_ point of view as the individual researchers in question?

Actually, this is something of a red herring. I quoted from both
Mack and Jacobs, making the same point that Jim had made. It was
Mack who suggested that Hopkins, Jacobs, and Nyman pull from
their experiencers what they want to see. Mack said it to us
during a video taped interview and he said it to Bryant in his
book... as I mentioned before.

See, the claim is not outrageous because the researchers you
quote are the same that I quote and those researchers have
suggested the matching of abductees to researchers.

 >As opposed to Mortellaro or even yourself, I actually _know_
 >these folks personally. I'm telling you that you're both dead
 >wrong in your statements. Please tell me _how many_ of Budd,
 >David's or John's clients you polled or interviewed.

In our research we used abductees who had been regressed by all
three... and those regressed by Yvonne Smith, John Carpenter and
several others including "He Who Shall Remain Nameless."

But once again, if you have an argument with the observation,
then please take it up with John Mack and David Jacobs as well.


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