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Re: Psychological Trauma - Felder

From: Bobbie Felder <jilain@ebicom.net>
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 14:52:20 -0600
Fwd Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 07:49:03 -0500
Subject: Re: Psychological Trauma - Felder

 >Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 05:12:50 -0500
 >To: ufoupdates@home.com
 >From: John Velez <johnvelez.aic@verizon.net>
 >Subject: Re: Psychological Trauma

 >>Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2001 09:12:37 -0600
 >>To: UFO Updates <ufoupdates@home.com>
 >>From: Bobbie Felder <jilain@ebicom.net>
 >>Subject: Re: Psychological Trauma


 >My "personal" problem with Mortellaro does not exist.

<LOL> Good one!!! And we all fell off the turnip truck

 >If you'll take note at the archives, I always "respond" to
 >whatever it happens to be that he is putting out publicly
 >regarding UFO abduction or abductees that has no
 > _proven_ basis in fact.

Hold the phone there, cowboy. "..proven basis in fact" when
talking about UFO abduction? Excuse me, I must have missed
something somewhere. Last time I checked, the question of UFO
abduction of humans as a physical, actually occurring reality
has _not_ been proven. If you have irrefutable evidence that
proves beyond the shadow of a doubt that UFO abduction of humans
is a physically occurring reality, please do whip it out. Show
me your evidence that _proves_ the _factual_ basis for your
claims of being a UFO abduction victim, and I will publicly and
profusely apologize to you, this List, and the UFO community as
a whole.

Whip out the evidence, Mr. Velez, that what you spout has a
_proven_basis_in_fact as opposed to Mr. Mortellaro's statements
being made up BS or whatever you think they are. Put it on the
table, let's all take a good look at it, and I will publicly
apologize for ever doubting your claims. Until you do that,
however, your claims, and your interpretations of your claims,
are no more valid than any other's.

Oh, and the ever-tiring "I am an abductee, I _know_ I am an
abductee, and I don't have to prove anything but you have to
believe me anyway" attitude don't cut the mustard.

As for the "abductee matching to the researcher", again I have
to agree with Mr. Randle. You got a problem with the
observation, take it up with those who made the observation -
Mack, Jacobs, etc.

 >If not, maybe you want to start another thread! You
 >can title it:

 >"John Velez's many colored cloak of abductee self-righteousness!"

I think "John Velez is Whining Again" would be more fitting :)

You might consider working on those people skills a bit, too.

Just a suggestion...


"The level of civilization of a people can be judged by the social
position of its women." - Domingo Sarmiento

Bobbie "Jilain" Felder
---> backwoods of Mississippi
---> USA
---> planet Earth
---> somewhere in the Cosmos

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