From: John Velez <email@example.com> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 14:22:54 -0500 Fwd Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 09:35:19 -0500 Subject: Re: William Cooper Dies In Gunfight - Velez >From: Alfred Lehmberg <Lehmberg@snowhill.com> >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <firstname.lastname@example.org> >Subject: Re: William Cooper Dies In Gunfight >Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 05:07:07 -0600 >>Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 21:45:19 -0800 (PST) >>From: Mac Tonnies <email@example.com> >>Subject: William Cooper Dies In Gunfight >>To: UfoUpdates <firstname.lastname@example.org> >>Before his violent death in November, 2001, lecturer and >>self-proclaimed military insider William Cooper helped >>popularize a number of malignant myths centered on the notion of >>secret U.S. contact with aliens. Cooper believed >>extraterrestrials were involved in a quiet takeover of the >>world, and claimed to have seen briefing documents and photos of >>aliens while serving in the military. He famously attacked noted >>UFO personalities such as Whitley Strieber, Linda Moulton Howe >>and Stanton Friedman as being CIA operatives bent on keeping the >>truth from public knowledge. Later in his career, Cooper's >>worldview became increasingly oppressive and paranoid. >>from http://mactonnies.com/coverup.html >...and jeez...what _ever_ could there have been to be paranoid >about, then OR now? <g>. >Lehmberg@snowhill.com Hi Alfred, There is a very real difference between honest and intelligent dissent and the lunacy (certifiable) that Cooper was responsible for spreading around. Let me share a little story with you, if I may, just to illustrate my point. About four years ago Budd Hopkins, Greg Sandow and myself drove out to New Jersey to speak at an annual conference that is held there. It's a two + hour drive. On the way Budd played a tape for us that was taken from his phone messaging machine. It contained a series of long distance telephone messages that old 'Wild Bill' Cooper had left for Budd. Alfred, the _threats_ and the language he used to issue those threats was enough to send Budd to the police to seek advice as to how to handle the situation. Cooper was a certified looney. And, as has been borne out by his shooting of this poor law enforcement officer (in the head - twice!) a very dangerous nut as well. I have to tell you that just sitting in the car listening to his voice as he ranted and raved at Budd sent chills up my spine. It was spooky to me even as a third party, witnessing the depth of his insanity. I know you man. I know where you are coming from with your remark above. I happen to agree wholeheartedly with you that there is _plenty_ to be concerned about government-wise. But you are speaking 'out of turn' or more accurately, 'within the wrong context' by making your comment in any thread connected to this mad-man. He was not only crazy, but he was dangerous Alfred. Maybe you ought to express your views in a separate thread. Within the context of this thread it only comes off as 'supportive' of this maniac's point of view. And I'm certain that was not your intention. Warm regards, John Velez A.I.C. - Abduction Information Center www.spacelab.net/~jvif/default.htm email@example.com "Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of your own mind."
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