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Re: William Cooper Dies In Gunfight - Lehmberg

From: Alfred Lehmberg <Lehmberg@snowhill.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 10:24:18 -0600
Fwd Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 16:21:32 -0500
Subject: Re: William Cooper Dies In Gunfight - Lehmberg


 >Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 14:22:54 -0500
 >To: ufoupdates@home.com
 >From: John Velez <johnvelez.aic@verizon.net>
 >Subject: Re: William Cooper Dies In Gunfight

 >>From: Alfred Lehmberg <Lehmberg@snowhill.com>
 >>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@home.com>
 >>Subject: Re: William Cooper Dies In Gunfight
 >>Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 05:07:07 -0600

 >>>Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 21:45:19 -0800 (PST)
 >>>From: Mac Tonnies <macbot@yahoo.com>
 >>>Subject: William Cooper Dies In Gunfight
 >>>To: UfoUpdates <ufoupdates@home.com>

 >>>Before his violent death in November, 2001, lecturer and
 >>>self-proclaimed military insider William Cooper helped
 >>>popularize a number of malignant myths centered on the notion of
 >>>secret U.S. contact with aliens. Cooper believed
 >>>extraterrestrials were involved in a quiet takeover of the
 >>>world, and claimed to have seen briefing documents and photos of
 >>>aliens while serving in the military. He famously attacked noted
 >>>UFO personalities such as Whitley Strieber, Linda Moulton Howe
 >>>and Stanton Friedman as being CIA operatives bent on keeping the
 >>>truth from public knowledge. Later in his career, Cooper's
 >>>worldview became increasingly oppressive and paranoid.

 >>>from http://mactonnies.com/coverup.html

 >>...and jeez...what _ever_ could there have been to be paranoid
 >>about, then OR now? <g>.

 >Hi Alfred,

<snip>

 >He was not only crazy, but he was dangerous Alfred.

That's the report, the party line, and the general
understanding. I don't know that myself. All I know is that,
even from my less than privileged vantage point, he had plenty
to be paranoid about, right, wrong or indifferent. Our freedoms
erode as we speak, fundamentalists on both sides of the
ideological fence caper and leap to substantive gains, and
individuality (culture's savior) is on the endangered species
list. I'm agitated, worried and otherwise concerned about it...
I imagine others might take it a little bit more seriously...
might even be driven crazy, and _made_ dangerous about it. All
of that gets lost in the smirks and sneers of many who discount
the possibility of conspiracy made all the more likely by a
preponderance of ubiquitous sociopaths and the huge profits that
attract them like flies to turning meat. Three men and one woman
in a hundred will cut you and laugh while you're bleeding if
there is enough personal gain in it for them. And they hide,
John... you never know they're there...

http://www.rense.com/general7/socio.htm

 >Maybe you ought to express your views in a separate thread.

Perhaps - but remarking on a facet of the Cooper phenomenon in
a thread named "Cooper" did seem abundantly appropriate.

 >Within the
 >context of this thread it only comes off as 'supportive' of this
 >maniac's point of view.

Will that make me less popular than I am presently? <g>.

I can't give a damn what other's think about me, John, not and
continue to be true to an honorable self, a new sensibility, and
a learned sensitivity... I'm going to continue to write my
conscience, sometimes get honest feedback like I am from you
right now... but live, learn, and grow.

 >And I'm certain that was not your intention.

That's correct, I was just pointing out that Cooper had plenty
to be excited about, forgetting for a moment that his expression
of it might be something less than completely appealing...
Consider the abolutionist John Brown. He was supposed to be
dangerous and crazy too...

It's rather like you and me, John Ford, and Lara Johnstone... we
have plenty to be _angry_ about and can perhaps be criticized
for our expressions regarding that anger. We have
justification... it _might_ be that he did, too. We'll likely
never know for sure, and that's certainly more fuel for _my_
anger. Yours too, perhaps, if you drew back from it a little.

Lehmberg@snowhill.com
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