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Re: William Cooper Dies In Gunfight - Hamilton

From: Bill Hamilton <skywatcher22@space.com>
Date: 8 Nov 2001 08:39:23 -0800
Fwd Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 16:33:25 -0500
Subject: Re: William Cooper Dies In Gunfight - Hamilton

 >Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 14:22:54 -0500
 >To: ufoupdates@home.com
 >From: John Velez <johnvelez.aic@verizon.net>
 >Subject: Re: William Cooper Dies In Gunfight

 >>From: Alfred Lehmberg <Lehmberg@snowhill.com>
 >>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@home.com>
 >>Subject: Re: William Cooper Dies In Gunfight
 >>Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 05:07:07 -0600

 >>>Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 21:45:19 -0800 (PST)
 >>>From: Mac Tonnies <macbot@yahoo.com>
 >>>Subject: William Cooper Dies In Gunfight
 >>>To: UfoUpdates <ufoupdates@home.com>

 >>>Before his violent death in November, 2001, lecturer and
 >>>self-proclaimed military insider William Cooper helped
 >>>popularize a number of malignant myths centered on the notion of
 >>>secret U.S. contact with aliens. Cooper believed
 >>>extraterrestrials were involved in a quiet takeover of the
 >>>world, and claimed to have seen briefing documents and photos of
 >>>aliens while serving in the military. He famously attacked noted
 >>>UFO personalities such as Whitley Strieber, Linda Moulton Howe
 >>>and Stanton Friedman as being CIA operatives bent on keeping the
 >>>truth from public knowledge. Later in his career, Cooper's
 >>>worldview became increasingly oppressive and paranoid.

 >>>from http://mactonnies.com/coverup.html

 >>...and jeez...what _ever_ could there have been to be paranoid
 >>about, then OR now? <g>.


 >Hi Alfred,

 >There is a very real difference between honest and intelligent
 >dissent and the lunacy (certifiable) that Cooper was responsible
 >for spreading around. Let me share a little story with you, if I
 >may, just to illustrate my point.

 >About four years ago Budd Hopkins, Greg Sandow and myself
 >drove out to New Jersey to speak at an annual conference
 >that is held there. It's a two + hour drive. On the way Budd
 >played a tape for us that was taken from his phone messaging
 >machine. It contained a series of long distance telephone
 >messages that old 'Wild Bill' Cooper had left for Budd.

 >Alfred, the _threats_ and the language he used to issue those
 >threats was enough to send Budd to the police to seek advice as
 >to how to handle the situation. Cooper was a certified looney.
 >And, as has been borne out by his shooting of this poor law
 >enforcement officer (in the head - twice!) a very dangerous nut
 >as well. I have to tell you that just sitting in the car
 >listening to his voice as he ranted and raved at Budd sent
 >chills up my spine. It was spooky to me even as a third party,
 >witnessing the depth of his insanity.

 >I know you man. I know where you are coming from with your
 >remark above. I happen to agree wholeheartedly with you that
 >there is _plenty_ to be concerned about government-wise. But you
 >are speaking 'out of turn' or more accurately, 'within the wrong
 >context' by making your comment in any thread connected to this

 >He was not only crazy, but he was dangerous Alfred. Maybe you
 >ought to express your views in a separate thread. Within the
 >context of this thread it only comes off as 'supportive' of this
 >maniac's point of view. And I'm certain that was not your

John and all,

I met Bill Cooper through John Lear in 1988. I booked him to
speak at a UFO conference that K. Duran and myself sponsored in
the high desert of 29 Palms Calif years ago. This was one of his
first public talks.

After Cooper told his story he embarrassed me by asking the
audience to donate money for his rent. Later, I confronted him
in the coffee shop about some of his outlandish claims like the
Pleidians landing at Edwards AFB which he denied a month later.
That is when I started to hear him change his story, even
contradicting earlier statements he made. This became a normal
part of his routine.

He was often soused and loved firearms. He advised me to go to a
gun show and purchase a 'an engine block-busting gun' and I
asked him why I should do a silly thing like that and he said
'to defend yourself against the government'.

With pugilistic obstinacy he got into a fist fight with Eric
Beckjord at a San Diego UFO event. Things went downhill from
there. Both of them should have been under care.

He threatened former friend John Lear while drinking by waving a
gun in the air and said he could shoot him. He later accussed
Lear of being agent "Condor" (Moore's aviary). A real nut case!

He not only accussed Budd but many others of disinformation and
lies. He fabricated contents of MJ-12 (Operation Majority)
documents that looked plagiarized from Bill Moore's and Bill
English's publications. He kept changing and expanding the
contents and accussing anyone who disagreed.

I have the dubious distinction of being one of the people he
slighted in his book 'Behold a Pale Horse'. Most of this was
also plagiarized material from conspiracy sources.

Then he had enough with alien conspiracies and declared there
were no aliens (evil or otherwise), but plenty of evil
government people. That is when he entrenched himself in upstate
Arizona to carry out his war against the government as a
so-called 'patriot'.

May he rest in peace.

-Bill Hamilton

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