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Re: William Cooper Killed In SWAT Raid - Hall

From: Richard Hall <hallrichard99@hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 21:47:32 +0000
Fwd Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 07:26:42 -0500
Subject: Re: William Cooper Killed In SWAT Raid - Hall


 >From: Jerome Clark <jkclark@frontiernet.net>
 >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@home.com>
 >Subject: Re: William Cooper Killed In SWAT Raid
 >Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 12:55:27 -0600

 >>Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 08:59:47 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
 >>From: Nick Balaskas <nikolaos@yorku.ca>
 >>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@home.com>
 >>Subject: Re: William Cooper Killed In SWAT Raid

 >>>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark@frontiernet.net>
 >>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@home.com>
 >>>Subject: Re: William Cooper Killed In SWAT Raid
 >>>Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 13:05:53 -0600

 >>>>Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 07:53:53 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
 >>>>From: Nick Balaskas <nikolaos@yorku.ca>
 >>>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@home.com>
 >>>>Subject: Re: William Cooper Killed In SWAT Raid

 >Nick,

 >>Do you at least allow for possiblity that crazy, evil bastards can
 >>have good ideas?
 >>Who decides who are or are not crazy, evil bastards anyway?

 >No, I do not allow for the idea that crazy, evil bastards can
 >have good ideas. Nor do I allow for the idea, as apparently you
 >do, that crazy, evil bastards are only in the eye of the
 >beholder.

 >>>The chance that Cooper was right about anything, beyond possibly
 >>>the price of gas (a substance he expended in great quantity), is
 >>>somewhere between virtual and absolute zero. The only right you
 >>>can ascribe to him is far, far right.

 >>What can you present to justify this opinion you have about Bill
 >>Cooper?

 >Oh, please. Read what the man said, and study his personal
 >history. Read some _actual_ post-World War II history, as
 >opposed to the lunatic ranting Cooper was peddling (and making a
 >lot of money from, it bears noting). You can also read the entry
 >"Dark Side" in The UFO Encyclopedia, 2nd ed. (1998), for the
 >dismal background of Cooper's journey into insanity. Peter
 >Brookesmith has an excellent treatment in Chapter 6 of his UFO:
 >The Government Files (1996).

 >>I have never met Bill Cooper or took most of what he had to say
 >>seriously, but he did influence many researchers to ask more
 >>questions and to dig deeper into claims regarding UFOs which
 >>have brought us closer to the truth.

 >Quite the contrary. It's people like Cooper who lead the
 >gullible and the frightened away from truth, not to mention
 >sanity and common sense. Ufology has seen many of them over the
 >course of its history, and Cooper was as bad as they come.

 >Jerry Clark

Jerry & List,

I strongly second these comments and won't bother to reply to
Nick's reply to me apparently embracing a very strange
epistemology that would have us hang on the every word of
Charles Manson, Squeaky Fromme, William Cooper, and other
mentally challenged individuals instead of listening to sane,
rational, well-informed people.


- Dick





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