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Re: William Cooper Killed In SWAT Raid - McCoy

From: GT McCoy <gtmccoy@harborside.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 16:28:59 -0800
Fwd Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 07:30:17 -0500
Subject: Re: William Cooper Killed In SWAT Raid - McCoy


 >From: Jerome Clark <jkclark@frontiernet.net>
 >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@home.com>
 >Subject: Re: William Cooper Killed In SWAT Raid
 >Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 12:55:27 -0600

 >>Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 08:59:47 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
 >>From: Nick Balaskas <nikolaos@yorku.ca>
 >>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@home.com>
 >>Subject: Re: William Cooper Killed In SWAT Raid

 >>>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark@frontiernet.net>
 >>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@home.com>
 >>>Subject: Re: William Cooper Killed In SWAT Raid
 >>>Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 13:05:53 -0600

 >>>>Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 07:53:53 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
 >>>>From: Nick Balaskas <nikolaos@yorku.ca>
 >>>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@home.com>
 >>>>Subject: Re: William Cooper Killed In SWAT Raid


 >>Do you at least allow for possiblity that crazy, evil bastards can
 >>have good ideas?
 >>Who decides who are or are not crazy, evil bastards anyway?

 >No, I do not allow for the idea that crazy, evil bastards can
 >have good ideas. Nor do I allow for the idea, as apparently you
 >do, that crazy, evil bastards are only in the eye of the
 >beholder.

Hitler saved the German economy, put people to work (some
against their will but so what). Mussolini made the Trains run
on time and was an international hero for a while (Gershwin's
"you're the Top" had a line You're top, you're the
Mussolini!''). Stalin was popular too -on a plie of millions of
skulls. Crazy,evil bastards-amen.

Cooper had lots of followers - I knew a few in my old home town
of Port Orford, Oregon. However he had a gift of P.O.ing people
that if Hitler had that he would have been reduced to a greasy
spot on some beer hall floor by one of his former supporters.

 >>>The chance that Cooper was right about anything, beyond possibly
 >>>the price of gas (a substance he expended in great quantity), is
 >>>somewhere between virtual and absolute zero. The only right you
 >>>can ascribe to him is far, far right.

 >>What can you present to justify this opinion you have about Bill
 >>Cooper?

 >Oh, please. Read what the man said, and study his personal
 >history. Read some _actual_ post-World War II history, as
 >opposed to the lunatic ranting Cooper was peddling (and making a
 >lot of money from, it bears noting). You can also read the entry
 >"Dark Side" in The UFO Encyclopedia, 2nd ed. (1998), for the
 >dismal background of Cooper's journey into insanity. Peter
 >Brookesmith has an excellent treatment in Chapter 6 of his UFO:
 >The Government Files (1996).

Having read both "Mien Kanf" and "Behold a Pale Horse" Hitler
was a better writer. But both belong in the same bag of horse
ah, fertilizer.

Before I joined the list there was a small group of people in
Port Orford who held Cooper almost at the level of Prophet, and
his droolings and rantings level of Gospel. They were lost souls
IMHO. One was a friend of ours that was driven into a drunken
haze by Cooper's rantings - there was no reasoning with him
about the truth. Including a living example of the truth of WWll
and beyond. My late father in-law who really was a part of the
real thing. Thanks to Cooper, to him there was no hope.

 >>I have never met Bill Cooper or took most of what he had to say
 >>seriously, but he did influence many researchers to ask more
 >>questions and to dig deeper into claims regarding UFOs which
 >>have brought us closer to the truth.

 >Quite the contrary. It's people like Cooper who lead the
 >gullible and the frightened away from truth, not to mention
 >sanity and common sense. Ufology has seen many of them over the
 >course of its history, and Cooper was as bad as they come.

Having seen it actually happen to gullible,fraglie souls ,I
agree.


GT McCoy




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