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Re: William Cooper Killed In SWAT Raid - Velez

From: John Velez <johnvelez.aic@verizon.net>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 14:53:47 -0500
Fwd Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 15:06:09 -0500
Subject: Re: William Cooper Killed In SWAT Raid - Velez

 >From: Richard Hall <hallrichard99@hotmail.com>
 >To: ufoupdates@home.com
 >Subject: Re: William Cooper Killed In SWAT Raid
 >Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 16:18:30 +0000

 >>From: Alfred Lehmberg <Lehmberg@snowhill.com>
 >>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@home.com>
 >>Subject: Re: William Cooper Killed In SWAT Raid
 >>Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 07:29:23 -0600


 >>Still though... another takes his place... we're never _without_
 >>the likes of 'him'. What is it that provides for him, what
 >>produces or suggests his validity -- what makes him a viable
 >>alternative? That's the real question isn't it? If we truly
 >>trusted our mainstream (felt like we were getting righteous
 >>information from it), why would any of us be attracted to an
 >>ever present fringe?


 >You raise a good question. I agree completely with G.T. and
 >others, but why do 'we' follow Cooper types? Why do people
 >follow Hitler types?

 >Having spent a number of years working for the American
 >Psychological Association, I can suggest a few reasonable
 >answers. Particularly when it comes to UFOs, 'we' are gullible
 >and tend to believe what we want to believe. 'We' in the U.S.
 >have become very paranoid about our Government (not without some
 >legitimate reasons, but way overboard).

 >When a paranoid, megalomaniac like Cooper taps into 'our'
 >paranoia, he becomes a sort of prophet to 'us'. Also as has been
 >amply demonstrated, 'we' don't understand science very well and
 >so fail to sift and sort through 'information' carefully. In
 >addition, the world is full of people looking for quick answers
 >who reason simplistically (if at all) and are born 'followers'
 >looking for a charismatic leader, hence cults arise (e.g.,
 >CSETI) often masked in noble-sounding causes or rhetoric.

Hi Dick,

Hope all is well with you. Haven't seen much of you on the List

I hope you don't mind if I take this off on a non-William Cooper
tangent, but you said something that started me thinking. You


 >Clear thinking, careful data analysis, exposure of fraud and
 >antisocial/paranoid behavior in individuals.

You also mentioned CSETI which made me think of Steve Bassett
and what he had to say Saturday night on 'Strange Days...

He talked about George Bush reversing an order to make public
all presidential documents after a twelve year period. Reagan
administration documents/papers were due to be made public and
Dubya just countermanded the order to release with a
Presidential Executive Order.

Now here's the kicker;

Bassett (publicly) attributes Dubya's action as an act meant to
contain any information relating to UFOs. He offered no hard
evidence that there is even reason to suspect such a thing, much
less to imply that there is any truth or validity to it. It
makes much more sense that what Dubya is really trying to hide
is anything that implicates his father in the Iran-Contra
scandal. Never forget that George senior was the head of the CIA
at one time and that the drugs for dollars scam could only have
been executed by a combination of CIA and military

Yet Steve Bassett, the one and only UFO lobbyist in Washington
is running around in public trying to make it sound as if Bush's
executive order has to do with UFO disclosure. A non-issue that
only serves to act as dis-information. Not to mention making
himself and those who support his beliefs on the existence of
UFOs look like a bunch of un-critical conspiracy nuts.

Other than nebulous remarks like "it is believed" that Bush is
trying to cover up UFO information with his executive order, he
never tells us "who" it is that "believes" what he claims, nor
does he offer _any_ documentation or proof that UFOs have
anything at all to do with President Bush's recent actions.

I just can't see how it 'helps' our cause to have a lobbyist
running around 'making up' what amounts to non-issues. How does
that help us?

We need to think very carefully about who and what we support
before we actually go ahead and support it/them. If people don't
become more thoughtful and critical in their thinking we're all
doomed to ride this ufological merry-go-round that we've been on
for over 50 years. Folks need to sober up, have a good look
around at what's what, and then take some personal
responsibility to correct the things that are wrong, or
unproductive. If not, ufology will remain the butt of jokes and
ridicule and _deservedly_ so.

Strictly my opinion.

Warmest regards Dick,

John Velez

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