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Re: William Cooper Killed In SWAT Raid - McCoy

From: GT McCoy <gtmccoy@harborside.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 18:29:40 -0800
Fwd Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 07:43:59 -0500
Subject: Re: William Cooper Killed In SWAT Raid - McCoy


 >From: Alfred Lehmberg <Lehmberg@snowhill.com>
 >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@home.com>
 >Subject: Re: William Cooper Killed In SWAT Raid
 >Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 07:29:23 -0600

 >>From: GT McCoy <gtmccoy@harborside.com>
 >>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@home.com>
 >>Subject: Re: William Cooper Killed In SWAT Raid
 >>Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:26:25 -0800

 >>>From: GT McCoy <gtmccoy@harborside.com>
 >>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@home.com>
 >>>Subject: Re: William Cooper Killed In SWAT Raid
 >>>Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 16:28:59 -0800

 >><snip>

 >>>Before I joined the List there was a small group of people in
 >>>Port Orford who held Cooper almost at the level of Prophet, and
 >>>his droolings and rantings level of Gospel. They were lost souls
 >>>IMHO. One was a friend of ours that was driven into a drunken
 >>>haze by Cooper's rantings - there was no reasoning with him
 >>>about the truth. Including a living example of the truth of WWll
 >>>and beyond. My late father in-law who really was a part of the
 >>>real thing. Thanks to Cooper, to him there was no hope.

 >><sinp>

 >>My Father in-law was a tank driver in the Third Army in WWII -
 >>he was one of the first in Dachau. Yes, the Holocaust did
 >>happen. history was real.

 >>As there is an underlying, with 'lying' being the word here,
 >>anti-semitic tone with Cooper and, as I recall, he was also a
 >>Holocaust denier. This little group, after a falling out with
 >>Cooper - seems the Woman who was grand pooh-bah had gotten on
 >>Cooper's bad side. Easy to do. Kind of like breathing wrong in
 >>his prescence. She was told she was a CIA operative. This
 >>shattered her - if she was CIA, we are all in trouble - and the
 >>group disbanded.

 >>From them sprang an even smaller group of five or so who formed
 >>a chapter of Aryan Nations. This was an example of Cooper's
 >>ability to spread his vitriol.

 >>However this one didn't last - the fearless leader of this
 >>'merry band' was exposed by his wife who, being a descendant of
 >>one of the local native chiefs and a Chinese miner, didn't hold
 >>with such crap. Not good when you are an Aryan wannabe.<g>

 >>Cooper was not simply evil, IMHO, he was as diabolical as they
 >>come. He could have been another Hitler if the times were right.
 >>He was clearly a classic megalomaniac if there ever was one.

 >>We are better off without the likes of him

 >Still though... another takes his place... we're never _without_
 >the likes of 'him'. What is it that provides for him, what
 >produces or suggests his validity -- what makes him a viable
 >alternative? That's the real question isn't it? If we truly
 >trusted our mainstream (felt like we were getting righteous
 >information from it), why would any of us be attracted to an
 >ever present fringe?

Hello, all, Alfred.

You know, I think that, while I agree we can and are being
treated like mushrooms by various entities, too numerous to
mention, I saw the participants of the Cooper study group as
people with drug and alcohol problems, (being part Indian myself
I've had to lay off the firewater, while not a falling down
drunk, it was controlling _me_) and they were, for lack of a
better word, outcasts of their own making.

Victims of a greater society. they thought of themselves as
victims, acted as if the whole world was plotting against them,
and, quite frankly, through Cooper, that the Jews were behind it
all, even to the point that aliens were supporting the Jews in
world domination!

Oh, what a bunch of Horse S**t. There is not one shred of
evidence to this. The local paper at that time (not the current
one by the by) published the 'Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion'
that was paid for by this group, the Editor never had a
disclaimer, or a rebuttal. The article included commentary by
Cooper ,as I think it was a standard press release form of
'Coopric' orgins.

I've been the object of prejudice, I grew up in a community
dominated by one religious group. Because of my "relativley"
dark skin, and (at one time) dark, nearly kinky hair, I was
accused of being 'Jewish' by these (rather inbred I might add)
blonde blue-eyed (almost to a person) folks. My Father looked
Hispanic (a blue-eyed Ramon Navarro) I didn't inherit his looks,
by the way. He didn't see himself a victim nor do I. But I, like
my father, fought back. He was never one to give up, neither am
I. We chose _not_ to be victims.

But, when you see yourself as a victim, quite frankly you are
dead meat - a deer in the headlights, so to speak. I see folks
on the fringe as that. Uncertain, quivering, unable to cope in
some way. The folks who rebel against, or at least question
authority are different. The way say a Nelson Mandela is
different than, say an Idi Amin or one of his idols, Adolf
Hitler. People of that ilk seek the victims, not IMHO, the
Rebels, the Authority Questioners. Those are the folks that
usually get hung or thrown in jail in a regime like the Third
Riech. The disenfranchised, the victim mentality, (real or
imagined) are the ones who put or give the Meglomanics the power
they need.


GT McCoy



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