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Re: Filer's Files #47 - 2001 - Friedman

From: Stan Friedman <fsphys@brunnet.net>
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 10:17:14 -0400
Fwd Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 09:57:07 -0500
Subject: Re: Filer's Files #47 - 2001 - Friedman

 >Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 18:34:13 -0800 (PST)
 >From: Rebecca <xiannekei@yahoo.com>
 >Subject: Re: Filer's Files #47 - 2001
 >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net>

 >>From: James Oberg <joberg@houston.rr.com>
 >>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net>
 >>Subject: Re: Filer's Files #47 - 2001
 >>Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 16:32:23 -0600

 >>>Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 12:59:28 -0800 (PST)
 >>>From: Rebecca <xiannekei@yahoo.com>
 >>>Subject: Re: Filer's Files #47 - 2001
 >>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net>


 >>>Well, now you have some documentation. Perhaps you should do
 >>>your own digging before dismissing things. I'm surprised at you.
 >>>While I don't know what your research capabilities are, I can
 >>>imagine that you would have access to many resources to find the
 >>>data you need.


 >>Hmm, let's see who needs a finger wagged at, and who's been
 >>lazy. Regarding Cernan's quote, thanks for the date of the

 >Did someone call you lazy? Wag a finger at me all you like. It
 >doesn't bother me.

 >>original citation, I presume 28 years is barely enough time to
 >>verify that a newspaper clipping reflected the astronaut's >true
 >>opinion, especially when that attributed opinion was 'useful'
 >>as propaganda. Have we established that EVERY ONE of us on this
 >>discussion is in agreement that the newspaper article was an
 >>accurate reflection of what Cernan really said or meant? Just
 >>trying to establish the consensus here.

 >Have you read the article? If I want to, I have a couple of
 >sources from which I could get a copy. I don't choose to. I
 >wasn't making the claim that the quote wasn't real. While you
 >didn't exactly make that claim, you certainly hinted at it.

 >Do you have some evidence that suggests that the story doesn't
 >reflect his view (at the time)? If so, quit beating around the
 >bush and present it.

 >As for the rest of your message, 'who cares'? I'm sorry, I
 >don't. What you posted had nothing to do with the comment I
 >made. I think you have and you _can_ do good work. I think you
 >were wrong about the Cernan quote. If you have proof that
 >suggests otherwise, let us know. Otherwise, why can't you admit
 >you made a mistake?

 >It is interesting that George Filer conceded he could be wrong
 >and even thanked you for correcting him. It would appear that
 >some take your word/work at face value. Hopefully, this incident
 >will be a lesson to all of us.


Was gone for the weekend or would have chimed in sooner. I was
living in the LA area when the Cernan article appeared. Called
the journalist to see if the quote was accurate. He said it was
and referred me to NASA Houston for the transcript. The quote
was accurate. I located Cernan. The quote was accurate. He even
gave me a lecture I could have given him about UFOs and evidence
and the huge universe etc.

I would certainly agree that there are lots of phony UFO quotes
out there including some attributed to me. Each must be taken on
its own merits or demerits as the case might be.

I am a few years behind in my filing, and have moved several
times since the article appeared, so probably cannot easily lay
my hands on it now.

Stan Friedman

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