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Re: Filer's Files #47 - 2001 - Lehmberg

From: Alfred Lehmberg <Lehmberg@snowhill.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:01:56 -0600
Fwd Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 12:51:02 -0500
Subject: Re: Filer's Files #47 - 2001 - Lehmberg

 >From: James Oberg <joberg@houston.rr.com>
 >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net>
 >Subject: Re: Filer's Files #47 - 2001
 >Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 09:02:33 -0600

 >>From: Robert Gates <RGates8254@aol.com>
 >>Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 01:16:49 EST
 >>Subject: Re: Filer's Files #47 - 2001
 >>To: ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net

 >I asked for documentation on an Internet quote, and that got
 >attacked as 'finger pointing' and 'screwing up'.

I would have said for consistently displaying a lack of balance
and canted reporting, but a shoe so well worn must certainly

 >When the
 >documentation was provided from credible sources, I'm happy to
 >accept the newspaper account as authentic.

Funny -- I would have had you for more of a Snydley Whiplash,
"Curses, foiled again!" kind of response.

 >The connection
 >between the newspaper account and Cernan's actual statements or
 >beliefs remains undefined, although the newsman in question -
 >Nick Chriss - was a veteran reporter known for accuracy.

Put that together with Stanton Friedman's "from the horses
mouth" and you can declare a "BINGO" and be consumed with the
happiness you alluded to earlier?

 >As to the X-15 ("White's UFO") fraud, or the von Braun false
 >quote, now suddenly we hear that people never believed stuff on
 >the Internet anyway, so no big deal. Hmm, isn't this

Your microcosmic contentions, awash with all the veracity you'd
care to name, still don't scale up to the big enchilada,
though... they don't address the big picture that you and your
opposition know is there. You don't remotely begin to address
the 20% bonafied unknowns that Hynek and Ruppelt were very plain
about, for instance.

 >Yet when I suggested that without documentation _I_ wouldn't
 >believe something just because it was on the Internet, I wind up
 >whipped with Klassical ad hominems.

...And I think he deserves them as much as you do, for the same
reasons and with the same amount of outraged passion.

 >Isn't consistent logic such
 >a delight when you find it, or even when you don't? <grin>

I'm somewhat less than amused considering how readily you can
make your pronouncements from the mainstream stage. You seem to
have some capability as a space historian, but even that is
suspect given your penchant to pick and choose from your
convenient microcosm tiny straw men that you use to discredit
the ufological macrocosm.

 >I'll continue to dig into the accuracy of stuff widely published
 >on the Internet, out of this curious obsession with getting real
 >facts right and false facts exposed and documented. I guess that
 >obsession is sort of crazy to many people! <again, grin>

I've no doubt but that you'll continue to do that which you have
done, but that's the way of it isn't it? The best have had the
conviction nearly burned out of them, while the worst do their
work with passionate intensity?

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