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Re: Trindade Photos A Fake? - Lehmberg

From: Alfred Lehmberg <Lehmberg@snowhill.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:14:50 -0600
Fwd Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 16:24:04 -0500
Subject: Re: Trindade Photos A Fake? - Lehmberg


>From: John Rimmer <jrimmer@magonia.demon.co.uk>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net>
>Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:07:54 +0000
>Subject: Re: Trindade Photos A Fake?

>>From: Kentaro Mori <airdown@ig.com.br>
>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net>
>>Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:52:18 -0300
>>Subject: Re: Trindade Photos A Fake?

>>>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark@frontiernet.net>
>>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net>
>>>Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 09:41:22 -0600
>>>Subject: Re: Trindade Photos A Fake?

>>>What "previous hoaxing"? Are you again conflating "trick
>>>photography" with "hoaxing"? Let us be sure we have a
>>>nonpropagandistic definition of hoax, so let's go to the
>>>dictionary:

>>>"Hoax. An act intended to trick or dupe: IMPOSTURE. 2. Something
>>>accepted or established by fraud or fabrication."
>>>Have you any evidence that in his previous history Barauna was
>>>known to try to "trick or dupe" people via "fraud"? That he
>>>tried to get people to accept what he'd created using trick
>>>photography as somehow authentic? That is certainly not my
>>>understanding of what he was doing. Quite the contrary.
>>>Again: trick photography and hoaxing are _not_ synonymous.
>>>Overwhelmingly, trick photographers are _not_ hoaxers.

>>My use of the word was indeed inaproppriated. I could ask for
>>your mercy here of shooting me with an English dictionary
>>because of my acknowledged bad English, but it would be an
>>unfair alibi that I would always refer to if I made any mistake.
>>So I just recognize and apologize for my error.

>I don't thing Kentaro has anything to apologise about here.
>_Jerry's_ dictionary seems rather contentious in its definition
>of "hoax", suggesting almost criminality. Mine (The Concise
>Oxford Dictionary) gives as part of its definition "Humorous or
>mischevious deception", which I think may well fit Barauna's
>situation.


What duplicitous pap is this? My Webster's defines it plainly
as: an act to trick or dupe or something accepted or established
by fraud... you're to be chastised for putting a good face on
it, and Andy Roberts should be prosecuted (or at least censured)
for perpetrating them. "Experiment," indeed! It's a lie by any
other name!

They are a _clear_ disturbance of the peace and urinate in the
water we're all trying to swim in. They're not funny,
productive, marginally useful, or appreciated. I revile the
hoaxer (at _any_ station) as a sociopath beneath my concern,
consideration, and contempt.


Lehmberg@snowhill.com

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