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UFO ROUNDUP, Volume 8 Number 46

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      UFO ROUNDUP
Volume 8, Number 46
December 3, 2003
Editor: Joseph Trainor

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Website: http://www.ufoinfo.com/roundup/


SPHERICAL RED UFO
SEEN IN SOUTH AFRICA

      On Saturday, November 8, 2003, at 4 p.m., Petru
Cameron and his family were preparing to go outdoors to
view the evening's lunar eclipse.  Within his hillside
home in Cape Town, South Africa, Petru reported, "I
happened to look out my window, and the object was
travelling at a steady, slow speed from west to east.  It
was so striking.  Actually, quite eerie.  I have seen lots
of UFOs but never a red one."
      "I just had to let you know that I, too, have seen
the red ball.  It was at 4 p.m."  (Email Form Report)


UFOs REPORTED IN
PENNSYLVANIA

      On Saturday, November 22, 2003, at 6:30 p.m., N.P.
was driving home in Tunkhannock, Pennsylvania (population
1,911) when she spotted a UFO.
      "When pulling into the driveway, I saw strange lights
in the sky," N.P. reported, "I got out of the car to
investigate.  I walked towards my backyard and saw a black
triangular craft overhead with a white light on each point
(corner--J.T.) and a blue light in the middle.  It turned
left (to the east--J.T.) and was gone quickly.  It didn't
have a sound.  It was lower than a small plane would fly."
      Tunkhannock is on Route 6 in the Susquehanna River
valley, located about 20 miles (32 kilometers) northeast
of Scranton, Pa.  (Email Form Report)
      On Saturday, November 8, 2003, two hours before the
lunar eclipse, two people, while traveling in their car"
through Lancaster County, Pa. "noticed what appeared to be
a luminous, rectangular-shaped object which appeared to be
motionless.  As the observers moved further down the road,
the object remained visible but became dimmer in
brightness.  Yet it appeared to remain still.  A check
with the local airport indicated that they were unaware of
any blimp activity in the area at the time of the
observation."
      Lancaster County is in southern Pennsylvania,
approximately 40 miles (64 kilometers) southeast of
Harrisburg, the state capital.  (Many thanks to Stan
Gordon of Pennsylvania UFO Hotline for this report.)


MYSTERY METEOR SEEN BY
HUNDREDS IN NEW MEXICO

      "A lot of people saw it.  They just didn't know what
to make of it."
      "A light streaked across the New Mexico sky about
dusk Thursday evening," November 20, 2003.  "There were a
lot of theories as to the cause of the flash of light, but
the experts at the Sandia National Labs" in Albuquerque,
N.M. (population 448,607) "said it was a meteor."
      "Terry Connors had just flown his plane into Double
Eagle Airport from Los Alamos (population 11,909) when he
spotted the meteor."
      "'It was quite amazing because the first thing we
noticed was kind of a bright flash, and then you saw the
long bright tail of a meteor that you would normally see,
but it was still daylight so you could see the vapor trail
that it left,' Connors said, 'Rather than just dying out,
there was a big green explosion at the end of the trail
and this was the end of the event, except the vapor trail
stayed around for another five to ten minutes.'"
        "As an Air Force veteran, Connors said he's seen a
lot of meteors, but nothing like what he saw Thursday.
But Sandia senior engineer Dick Spalding said he's
confident that's what it was on the (surveillance video)
tape."
      "'It caught a meteor--a thing that moved through the
sky with the speed and direction that we generally
associate with a meteor--so we think that's what people
saw,' Spalding said."  (See the New Mexico Channel
broadcast of November 21, 2003.  Many thanks to Steve
Wilson Sr. for the transcript.)


WHO'S OUT THERE!?

      "The U.S. and Russian crew of the International Space
Station reported a brief, unexpected metallic crunching
noise outside the outpost early Wednesday," November 26,
2003.
      "Astronaut Mike Foale told NASA's Mission Control the
noise sounded as if something had struck the aft end of
the Russian module that houses the crew's sleeping
quarters, kitchen and lavatory."
      "Both U.S. and Russian ground-based experts could
find no evidence of penetration of the station's airtight
hull or the cooling system for the electronic equipment
that is responsible for many of the operations."
      "Later, Foale used video cameras on the station's 57-
foot (17-meter) robot arm to scan the external areas of
the outpost from which the noise seemed to come, in search
of potential damage."
      "Ground control joined the astronauts in checking
external video camera views as well as internal air and
coolant pressure levels.  None of these readings explained
the noise, though more analysis was under way."  (See the
Duluth, Minn. News-Tribune for November 27, 2003, "Unknown
noise on space station," page 2A.)


RECENT SOLAR STORM
DAMAGED MARS PROBE

      "Intense solar activity last month (October 2003)
shut down a radiation-measuring instrument aboard NASA's
Mars Odyssey orbiter, and controllers haven't been able to
fix it, NASA said."
      "The instrument was designed to collect data for
evaluating the risks that future Mars-bound astronauts
would face from space radiation.  It worked from March
2002 until last month, the agency's Jet Propulsion
Laboratory said in a statement."
      "Efforts to restore the instrument will continue for
several weeks or months, officials said.  The equipment
already has provided a wealth of information, NASA said."
      "The October 28 (2003) solar storm caused a blackout
in Sweden, damaged two Japanese satellites and upset radio
and navigation systems for aircraft and ships" elsewhere
on Earth.  (See USA Today for November 28, 2003, "Solar
activity damaged Mars orbiter," page 3A.)

BIGFOOT ON THE MOVE
IN PENNSYLVANIA

      Residents were startled Sunday, November 16, 2003,
when they saw Bigfoot swimming in Edinboro Lake, located
in Pennsylvania's northwestern corner, just south of Lake
Erie.
      According to ufologist Stan Gordon, "The Pennsylvania
Bigfoot Society received a report of what appeared to be
'a very large human shape swimming in a lake near Erie,
Pa.' (population 103,717)."
      Edinboro Lake is located at the intersection of
Routes 99 and 6 North approximately 15 miles (25
kilometers) south of Erie.
      "The figure appeared to have unusually large arm
stretches while swimming," Gordon reported.
      "During the 1960s," he added, "there were Bigfoot
sightings reported around Erie and Edinboro."
      "The Pennsylvania Bigfoot Society is also
investigating two Bigfoot sightings by several young
fellows in a rural area near New Castle (population
26,309)," located 54 miles (86 kilometers) northwest of
Pittsburgh."
      "The first sighting was (Monday) November 17 (2003)
at reportedly around 6:30 a.m., while two friends were out
taking a walk.  They claim to have seen an eight-foot
(2.4-meter) tall creature walking on the side of a road.
They reported a wet-dog smell at the time of the
observation."
      "The next night (Tuesday, November 18, 2003) as they
were walking in the same area, they saw a similar creature
sitting Indian-style (i.e. with legs crossed--J.T.) with
its arms hanging over its knees."  (Many thanks to Stan
Gordon of the Pennsylvania UFO Hotline for these reports.)


PHANTOM PANTHER STALKS
A SCHOOL IN SCOTLAND

      "Fears are growing that a black leopard spotted on
the prowl near a school will risk getting close to houses
in a bid to find food."
      "Young mum Lesley Campbell, 26, from Paisley, was
driving home from her pal's when she got the shock of her
life.  She had to swerve when a large black beast pounced
out in front of her car."
      "'I couldn't believe my eyes,' she said, 'I had just
passed the new Hungry Monk restaurant between Lochwinnoch
and Johnstone in the early hours of Monday morning
(November 10, 2003) when this massive cat-like creature
darted across the road.'"
      "'If I'd been drinking, I would have thought I was
seeing things, but I hadn't.  It had something between its
teeth, but I was too shocked to see what.'"
      "Lesley, who lives in the Castlehead area, added: 'I
was shaking like a leaf and phoned my husband.  I thought
it was a puma (cougar or mountain lion in the USA--J.T.)
because it was jet black and huge.'"
      "Builder George Bremner also had a close encounter
with the big cat.  George, 38, from Johnstone, said: 'I'd
been out for a drink with my mates on Sunday night
(November 9, 2003), and we had a wee party later.  I was
being driven home from Kilwinning towards the Johnstone
by-pass when my pal slammed the brakes on and stopped the
car.  This huge monster of a beast was sitting in a field
with what looked like a baby fox in its mouth.  It stared
straight at us before disappearing into the night.'"
      "George added: 'When I told my workmates on Monday
morning, they all laughed.  So you can imagine how I felt
when I saw the story in the Express.  It was great, and I
had the last laugh.'"
      "Sarah Sweeney, 32, told how she spotted a big black
cat in the woods close to her home on Glenfield Road in
Paisley when she was out walking her dog."
      "'It was darting around at Thornley Dam on Friday
night (November 7, 2003).  I went back the following night
(Saturday, November 8, 2003) and I took my husband, too.
It was about an hour later and we thought we had missed
it.  Just as we turned to go back to our house, it pounced
out from behind a tree.'"
      "Yesterday's Express told how a big cat was seen near
Lochwinnoch Primary (school) between 7:30 and 8 a.m. on
Monday (November 10) when a nearby resident spotted it
running with a dead animal in its mouth."
      "The shock sighting was made by a resident in the
Calderpark Street area of Lochwinnoch between 7:30 and 8
a.m. Monday.  The area is close to Lochwinnoch Primary
School which caters to more than 250 youngsters."
      "One source said: 'The neighbour said the animal had
run across the road towards Lochwinnoch Primary, then
disappeared into the Calder Glen Woods.  He got quite a
fright and, once he calmed down, contacted the police.
They naturally took him seriously and officers searched
the woods.'"
      "The (police) helicopter was out in the area on
Monday and was flying again over the area yesterday
(Tuesday, November 11, 2003), but the mystery animal
wasn't spotted."
      "A spokesman for the Renfrewshire Council said the
village school had been advised of the sighting by the
police.  He added: 'At this stage, it's a matter of being
vigilant.  We don't tend to use the area where the
sighting was for any school-related activities.  But as a
precautionary measure, we are keeping the pupils'
activities within the school grounds, and staff are
carrying out regular patrols of the grounds.'"
      "A shocked dog-walker has become the latest person to
spot one of the giant cats on the loose in Renfrewshire."
      "Iain Riley was taking his pet dog out yesterday
morning (Monday, November 17, 2003) when he spotted the
huge black creature which big cat experts believe could be
a black leopard."
      "Iain, 52, was out walking his dog when he saw the giant black beast
just yards (meters) away from his home in Kintyre Avenue, Linwood."
      "The shocked man said: 'I was taking my dog out early
in the morning.  It was only about 7 o'clock and it was
still quite dark.  I was out at the side of my house when
I sighted the cat.  It was at a fence that's about 40 or
50 yards (36 to 45 meters) away from my house.'"
      "'I couldn't believe my eyes.  At first I thought it
was a big dog, but when I got a bit closer, I realised it
was a big cat.  It was all black and at least as big as my
German Shepherd dog, possibly even bigger.'"
      "He added: 'I was quite close to it when I realised
what it was.  I certainly didn't get any closer.'"
      "'The animal was standing beside the fence, and then
it just went through a gap in the fence and disappeared
out of my sight.  I only got a brief glimpse of it, but it
certainly gave me quite a surprise.'"
      "He added: 'I found out from one of my neighbours
that there had been a number of other sightings in the
area.'"  (See the Paisley Daily Express for November 12,
2003, "Leopards on the loose;" for November 13, 2003,
"Further sighting of hungry leopard," and for November 18,
2003, "Shock for dog walker as he spots giant cat."  Many
thanks to Robert Fischer, UFO Roundup's phantom panther
expert, for forwarding these newspaper articles.)
(Editor's Comment:  The phantom panther phenomenon has
shifted into high gear in Scotland.  Check out the
situation in Fife.)


PHANTOM PANTHER SEEN
AT RAF BASE IN FIFE

      "A retired police officer who collates sightings of
Fife's legendary but elusive 'big cats' has received 14
new reports of sightings since an article, highlighting a
recent incident at Ladybank, appeared in the Courier
earlier this week."
      "George Redpath, of Balmullo, revealed yesterday
(Thursday, November 13, 2003) that he has been inundated
with calls since it was reported that Glenrothes man
Andrew Smith had become the latest in a long line of
people who have become convinced that the northeast Fife
countryside" in Scotland "is home to one or more big
cats."
      "George said all but one of the latest reports were
recent sightings and included one at Muirhead, outside
Dundee, and ones near Kirkcaldy, Tayport, Denhead,
Dunfermline, Letham, Kingskettle and Ladybank."
      "But interestingly, he said, another report of a
'brown cat-like creature' had come in from the Balmullo-
St. Michaels area, reported on the same day he was
investigating an alleged attack on a deer within the
perimeter fence at RAF Leuchars" air base.
      "'In an ideal world, if we had exact details of every
sighting, we could plot the appearance of the big cat.  If
it was spotted at 2 p.m. in Dunfermline and at 2 p.m. in
Cupar, for example, we would know that there might be more
than one creature.'"
      "A big cat alert has gone out at an air base after
the savaged carcass of a deer was found close by."
      "Staff at RAF Leuchars in Fife have twice reported
seeing a black cat-like animal patrolling the grounds of
the base late at night and after first light in the
morning."
      On Thursday, November 13, 2003, "a source said: 'The
deer carcass showed all the hallmarks of the animal being
killed for prey.'"  (See the Tayside and Fife Courier for
November 18, 2003, "'Big cat' reports rise;" and the Daily
Record for November 14, 2003, "Big Cat scare at air base."
Many thanks to Robert Fischer for these newspaper
articles.  And for more on the Ladybank sighting, see UFO
Roundup, volume 8, number 44 for November 19, 2003,
"Phantom panther seen in Ladybank, Scotland," page 6.)


PHANTOM PANTHER ON THE
PROWL IN BUCKINGHAMSHIRE

      "A walker has told of his shock after encountering
'the Beast of Bucks,' a large predatory cat thought to be
a panther."
      "Ernie Carey, from Ickenham, near Uxbridge, had been
driving for 30 minutes in Cookham," Buckinghamshire, UK
"with his wife Barbara when he spotted the animal in
Temple's Lane."
      "Mr. Carey said: 'The animal was jet black and was at
least two feet (0.7 meters) high and four feet (1.3
meters) long.  It had a very long black tail and little
ears.  It was huge and its paws were like a tiger's.'"
      "He said they were going past a house in Cookham when
the animal went past the main gate.  It was about 10 to 20
yards (9 to 18 meters) ahead."
      "Mr. Carey said: 'It just strolled right in front and
crossed the road.  Barbara was driving the car.  I was
just looking out the window in front of me.'"
      "'I was shocked for a split second.  The (side)
window in the car was down, I shut it quickly, I didn't
want it to get in the car.  I didn't expect anything like
that.  I wish I had my camera handy.'"
      "'It was definitely not a cat.  We weren't alarmed or
anything like that, it wasn't doing anybody any harm.  It
wasn't threatening, it was like a cat walking across the
road.  It was huge.  We both saw it, so it wasn't a case
of mistaken identity.  But we were still completely
surprised to see such a big thing.'"
      "Mr. Carey said he had heard of people who kept wild
animals as pets and said he thought this was the case with
the panther.  He said: 'I know people do have pets.  I've
heard of someone who had a tiger in their flat in New
York.  But I didn't expect to see any.'"
      "Danny Bamping, founder of the British Big Cats
Society, said sightings are becoming more frequent."
      "He said: 'These sightings are becoming more and more common in Britain,
and last week we had 15 sightings throughout the country.'"
      "'The area around High Wycombe has seen quite a few
sightings, and I think it is partly because of the fact
that people are more confident they will be taken
seriously when they report one.'"
(Editor's Note: High Wycombe has a long paranormal
history.  In the Eighteenth Century, its caves were the
headquarters of the notorious "Medmenham Monks," better
known as the Hellfire Club.)
      "'These black cats are panther-like creatures, but
they have been around for a long time so they may be
hybrids because of cross breeding.  The cats can have huge
territories and will regularly roam through different
counties.'"
      "At the beginning of the year (2003), a creature
thought to be a lynx killed more than 40 chickens at a
poultry farm in Saunderton, and staff at a furniture
manufacturer spotted a big cat resembling a puma prowling
along the edge of a field in Princes Risborough."  (See
the Bucks Free Press for October 10, 2003, "Beast of Bucks
spotted in Cookham."  Many thanks to Robert Fischer for
this newspaper article.)


MAUI PANTHER PULLS A
DISAPPEARING ACT

      "The mystery surrounding the big cat of Olinda has
gotten even stranger."
      "The creature that has been regularly seen or heard"
on the island of Maui, in the USA's state of Hawaii "has
suddenly vanished from Upcountry radar screens."
      "With no reports of the elusive jungle cat for at
least three weeks, (Hawaiian) wildlife officials on
Thursday (November 20, 2003) began disengaging the 19
foot-hold snares they had set up in the (Olinda) area that
the cat had been frequenting."
      "Oddly enough, the sightings of the cat abruptly
ended about the same time as news reports announcing that
the snares had been put in place by a Hawaiian crew under
the guidance of a trapping expert from Arizona who was
brought to Maui by the state Department of Land and
Natural Resources."
      "DLNR chairman Peter Young said the decision to
detach the snares was made because of the lack of
sightings and the amount of manpower needed to check the
traps daily."
      "'We are prepared to take further action if credible
evidence becomes available,' said Young."
      "Stan Cunningham, the Arizona research biologist who
spent a week on Maui last month (October 2003), showing
Hawaiian workers the finer points of setting snares,
wasn't surprised that the cat has seemingly disappeared
into thin air."
      "'It makes you wonder if the owner does have a
relationship with the cat, and he's damn sure not going to
let the cat out when there's snares on the ground,' said
Cunningham."
      "Rumors have been flying around the community that
the cat has been either caged again by its owner or has
been killed.  Young also said there's the chance that the
animal has moved on to another location, something that
Cunningham thought was a real possibility."
      "'The first thought I had when I was up in the
helicopter (surveying the rugged terrain) was that this
thing could go anywhere it wants,' said Cunningham, 'It
really is like looking for a needle in a haystack.'"
      "Despite the sudden lack of sightings, Cunningham
remains convinced that there was a jungle cat--perhaps a
leopard or a jaguar--stalking a 20-square-mile swath above
Seabury Hall from Piiholo Road to Kekaulike Highway.  He
said evidence of scratch marks, paw prints and the way a
deer had been attacked was too much to ignore."
      "If reports of the cat resume, the snares can easily
be put up again, said Cunningham."
      "Olinda residents who have seen or heard the cat over
the past several months still believe their eyes and ears,
even though others have laughed off the cat sightings as a
hoax or figments of imagination."
      "Peter Baldwin, retired president of Haleakala Ranch,
heard what he thought sounded like a wild cat screaming in
the middle of the night near his home above Hanamu Road
about a month ago.  The next morning, Baldwin learned
that, at almost the same time, his neighbor had been
awakened by a noise in the garage.  When the neighbor
opened the door, he saw the back of a huge cat with a long
tail running away after it had knocked over a garbage can
and tore open a bag of dog food."
      "'There have been many numerous sightings.  I believe
there was a cat out there,' said Baldwin, 'If it does have
a home, maybe someone's residence, maybe that's where it's
been lately.  And maybe it will come back again.'"  (See
the Maui Weekly News for November 22, 2003, "Sightings
stop, so big-cat snares removed."  Many thanks to Robert
Fischer for forwarding this newspaper article.)
(Editor's Comment:  So far, this "Maui panther" case has
followed the same pattern as every Fortean or paranormal
event I've ever covered.  First there's the "impossible
happening"... in this case, an out-of-place panther on a
Pacific island.  Then there are more sightings of the
weird creature.  Then the sightings reach their peak.
Suddenly, the sightings stop, as if the creature fell off
a cliff.  And the authorities cook up a "normal" rationale
to explain it all.  That's the way it was with the Hanuman
sightings in India in 2001 and the wave of cattle
mutilations in Argentina and Uruguay in 2002.  That's how
it's been with the "Maui panther."  And that's how it will
be with next year's paranormal spectacular--whatever it
is.)


PAKISTAN FOSSIL SITE MAY
BE 30 MILLION YEARS OLD

      Madame Karren, a German archaeologist, visited the
fossil site at Ban Amir Khatoon, near Chakwal, Pakistan on
Wednesday, November 19, 2003, calling it "the heaven of
archaeology."
      "The people of the area," located in Pakistan's Salt
Range, "are the guardians of a very old human
civilization, and the area has a very strong cultural and
historical background, she remarked, while visiting the
Ban Amir Khatoon fossil site."
      "Mrs. Vera Sozluwki, the wife of the ambassador of
Hungary, based at Islamabad (Pakistan's capital--J.T.),
also accompanied her."
      "Local geologist Malik Muhammad Riaz briefed them
about the fossils, which are over 30 million years old.
He explained that he had discovered the site in 1994."
      "The famous Pakistani archaeologist Dr. Ahmad Hassan
Dani has visited the area many times and has claimed that
this is the largest concentration of fossils in the
world."
      "Khwaja Babar Salim, Secretary-General of the Chakwal
Press Club, claimed that evidence of 'the first human
civilization' had been found in the Salt Range area.  If
more research work should be done, he added, 'We are
confident that the first truly human being appeared here
in Pakistan.'"
      Krishnari Bai Dharapurnanda, UFO Roundup
correspondent in India, added that the Ban Amir Khatoon
site "proves that (human) civilization existed during the
Tetra Yuga, well before the (Pleistocene) Ice Age."  (See
the Indian newspaper Thanthi for November 23, 2003.  Many
thanks to Krishnari Bai Dharapurnanda for this news
story.)


 From the UFO Files...

1909: PHANTOM PANTHERS
           OF TEMPLETON, MASS.

      Ninety-four years ago, in December 1909, there was a
flurry of "phantom panther" sightings in Templeton,
Massachusetts, located on Routes 2 and 68 approximately 18
miles (30 kilometers) west of Fitchburg and 70 miles (116
kilometers) northwest of Boston.
     What is most curious about this "panther" flap is that
it ran concurrently with a major UFO flap centered in
nearby Fitchburg and Leominster, which is sometimes called
L'affaire Tillinghast or "the great airship invasion of
1909."
(Editor's Note:  Fitchburg, of course, has long been the
"UFO capital" of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.)
      "The main 'phantom panther' action took place in and
around Templeton, Mass.  This is the notorious
'Montachusett' region of the Bay State, the home of many
inexplicable events, such as the Andreasson affair of
1967, the UFO flaps of 1973 and 1975, and the Philipston
'fireball' of 1976."
      "On 26 November 1909, Joseph Chandler of Fitzwilliam,
New Hampshire, took his dog rabbit-hunting in the
Greenwood section of Winchendon, Mass.," 10 miles (16
kilometers) north of Templeton.
      "'He was making his way over some undergrowth, when
he was distracted by the howling of the hound.  Hastening
in the direction of the noise, he saw his dog being
pounced upon by an animal resembling a panther or wild
cat, but before he could get a shot at the animal, it
disappeared in the woods.  The dog was badly bitten on the
front legs, besides having several deep gashes down his
back, caused evidently by his opponent's claws.'"
      "The panther turned up again in Templeton on 14
December (1909).  'Mrs. George Wheeler reports the latest
known haunt of the animal.  She was driving on Otter River
Road' in a horse-drawn carriage 'when near the junction of
Baptist Common Road her attention was attracted to an
animal standing between two houses there.  It evidently
saw Mrs. Wheeler's carriage about the same time that she
observed the stranger, and it bounded across an open patch
of field and disappeared from sight in the woods.  Mrs.
Wheeler described the animal as being about the size of a
(German) shepherd dog and (it) had a long tail.'"
      Phantom panther sightings are nothing new, it seems.
But, for Templeton, the terror was only beginning.  (See
the book Fortean Studies - Volume 1, John Brown Publishing
Ltd., London, 1994, "The New England Airship Invasion of
1909" by Joseph Trainor, page 60.  See also the Gardner,
Mass. News for November 27, 1909 and December 15, 1909.)


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