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Re: Censoring Greer & Witnesses - White

From: Vince White <Vinceomni@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:41:49 EST
Fwd Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 18:18:15 -0500
Subject: Re: Censoring Greer & Witnesses - White

>From: Bruce Maccabee <brumac@compuserve.com>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net>
>Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:38:22 -0500
>Subject: Re: Censoring Dr. Greer & Witnesses

>(b) claiming that the government is covering up anti-gravity and
>space based weapons when there is, in fact, no confirmable
>evidence that either exist ( I am, in particular, aware of the


By this statement, we can't  bring up anything not
"confirmable", that just about excludes UFOs. The purpose of
open hearings is to confirm, through sworn testimony, and
introduction of evidence, what is not yet confirmed. I must add,
there is at least one UpDates Lister, who observed at a Northrop
test facility on at least two occasions what can only be
described as gravity controlled craft. Several disclosure
witnesses refer to gravity  control as achieved. At least one
refers to zero point energy devices in black labs.

Mark McCandlish DP witness describes gravity controlled craft,
quietly hovering in a hangar - powered by what? Greer's developed
 sources claim operational gravity craft. Are we not to mention
these yet to be  confirmed, powerful possible motives for
coverup? One DP witness claims enormous sums spent on this.

Multiple crash retrievals appear to have occurred, possibly even
exchange program "gifts" according to the late Ben Rich of
Lockheed-Martin. Greer's sources claim a scientific black
harvest from this acquired hardware. In open ended congressional
hearings, we can bring Greer's sources out of the shadows - as
well as Area 51 test flights of "things" flying
non- aerodynamically into sworn daylight testimony.

In this observers opinion, there is an empirical trail that
leads to covertly achieved field propulsion... Greer adds to
this picture of covert achievement. These astounding claims are
integral to the UFO coverup itself. Admit gravity control - it
leads almost instantly to the originating UFO sources.

We can't narrow the scope of discussion without aborting the
hearing process itself. From comments of some listers some of
the most surprised will be listers, who somehow don't think
that, we too, can build  shining craft that can travel to the
stars. So we had a little help. This is what Ben Rich allegedly
said to a roomful of witnesses. We will possibly need extreme
congressional efforts, threats of contempt of congress, demands
to tour certain sites, a real hearing room battle before the

Proof or disproof of these things will come when  this subject
is  addressed by what should be the longest, loudest, largest
and publicized hearings in history. Somewhere in the house or
senate is a man or woman who will summon the courage to make the
historic  ice  breaker speech. Impelled, possibly by the
burgeoning black technology that corporate leaders would like to
harvest openly - or a triggering UFO event.

When that ice-breaking  speech heard around the world is made,
it will ask big  questions, demand comprehensive answers, have
historic scope. Contrary to some listers key folk in congress
are deeply aware of the historic issues involved,  having been
privately briefed by outside sources. Bill Clinton isn't the
first peson to  back channel on this. What is whispered in
cloaked rooms will be shouted in a publicly  incandescent open
ended question  barrage.

Taboo topics will storm across the media, the very definition of
national security will be questioned. Those who would limit
scope will  probably fail, but they are to be  faulted for
misguided attempts to do so.

It may happen in 2004, catalyzed by the X-Conference, or a bold
UFO appearance or just the inner courage of a  single member of
congress to openly ask open ended questions.

Vince White