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Re: Norwood Photos On-line - Young

From: Kenny Young <ufo@fuse.net>
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:40:45 -0500
Fwd Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 03:36:29 -0500
Subject: Re: Norwood Photos On-line - Young

>From: Bruce Maccabee <brumac@compuserve.com>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net>
>Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:25:08 -0500
>Subject: Re: Norwood Photos On-line

>I studied this case when I first came upon it back in the '70's.
>The lack of multiple photos is disappointing. It would be nice
>if there were a photo taken from a distance showing the beam
>going up at a slant angle, similar to the photo from the BOLA
>(Battle of Los Angeles) case where several searchlight beams
>converge on.... something.

>Also, the Norwood case was particularly frustrating to read
>because the detection of the object was a repeatable event for
>several days, yet there was no really scientific study of it.

Not so, according to the available information. Dr. Dare A.
Wells, UC physicist, and Professor Paul Herget, U.S. astronomer
(and later "vanguard" of the nation's space program) were
present in Norwood for several 'viewings.'

Herget was present on October 23 and December 20. On the evening
of December 20, Norwood mayor Ed Tepe was there and told Leonard
Stringfield, in an interview several years later, that Herget
and Wells worked closely with two AFOSI agents strangely named
"Eichleberger" and Eichlbarger."

Using the searchlight, a telescope, camera and protractor,
Herget and Wells calculated the object as holding a position 10-
miles up and comprised a mass of 10,000 feet in diameter.

New information on this case suggests that The Cincinnati
Astronomical Society (who we know to be Herget) alerted Wright
Field in nearby Dayton, Ohio and the 123rd Aircraft Control &
Warning Squadron, headquartered at Lunken Field in Cincinnati,
was instructed to check the radar for the object. This
information, according to recent testimony from a squadron
member, informs that the object was confirmed on radar and
closely watched 'round the clock' as it held its position over
Norwood for 30 days prior to its rapid departure out into space
(more info on this to be coming soon, KY)

In a newspaper account from April of 1950, Wells said: "In my
opinion, its an optical illusion." Herget, on the other hand,
said: "It's not a fake, I believe it may be due to the
illumination of gas in the atmosphere."

Herget was later interviewed by Cincinnati UFO investigator
Leonard Stringfield. The first thing Herget said was "Do you
have a security clearance?" at which point Stringfield said his
research was 'strictly civilian.' Stringfield, in his book
"Saucer Post 3-0 Blue," said: "Herget, turning red, replied
harshly "I take a dim view on UFOs, there is absolutely nothing
to it."

I reviewed Herget's files at the U.C. archives several years ago
and there was nothing to be found concerning his experiences at

So the available information suggests, quite strongly, that
there was, indeed, a 'study' of the Norwood UFO. The results of
that study remain concealed, it seems, in the realm of the

If there has ever been such a thing as 'insiders' involved with
UFOs, I think that Herget was one of them.

In addition to the 2 25-foot rolls of motion picture film
retained by Rev. Gregory Miller and last seen at WCPO Ch. 9
studios in Cincinnati in 1952 - from which the 2 photos at


were obtained - there were several good-quality photographs of
the Norwood UFO taken by Norwood police sgt. Leo Davidson and
held at the Norwood police department for several years, at
least until the mid 80s, when they were last seen in the
possession of several officers who presented the photos at a
Norwood Kiwanis Club meeting, where they were 'passed around'
from attendees (according to president of Norwood Historical
Society I interviewed in the late 1990s). At this point, the
photos were likely kept in the possession of a private
individual, possibly a retired police officer now living in
Florida perhaps, and are no longer at the department. I would
sure love to find those photos.....

Kenny Young
UFO Research