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Re: Norwood Photos On-line - Maccabee

From: Bruce Maccabee <brumac@compuserve.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:38:44 -0500
Fwd Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 18:03:36 -0500
Subject: Re: Norwood Photos On-line - Maccabee

>From: Ray Stanford <dinotracker@earthlink.net>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net>
>Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:50:34 -0500
>Subject: Re: Norwood Photos On-line

>>From: Bruce Maccabee <brumac@compuserve.com>
>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net>
>>Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:25:08 -0500
>>Subject: Re: Norwood Photos On-line

>>>From: Kenny Young <ufo@fuse.net>
>>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net>
>>>Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:45:05 -0500
>>>Subject: Norwood Photos On-line>

>>>To see images of the little-known Norwood UFO of 1949, a
>>>legendary incident involving Army Sgt. Donald R. Berger, see:


>I studied this case when I first came upon it back in the '70's.
>The lack of multiple photos is disappointing.

>Honesty, Bruce, you must not have done much of a study!

>The photos are frame prints from a 16 mm movie.

>Got that? A movie! So there were many photos!

Yeah, got that. How many are available from the 25 feet of film?
One (yours)? I studied this case many years ago and don't recall
the details. Will have to look in my records. My recollection is
that the case is in the Blue Book file at the National Archives.
I don't recall any mention in the file of a movie, just
documents and a photo.

But that was nearly 30 years ago (middle 70's). Anyway I haven't
seen the movie.

>>It would be nice
>>if there were a photo taken from a distance showing the beam
>>going up at a slant angle, similar to the photo from the BOLA
>>(Battle of Los Angeles) case where several searchlight beams
>>converge on.... something.

>You must need glasses, too, Bruce. The movie clearly shows the
>spotlight beam going up to the object.

That's nice. If it were possible to determine the azimith and
elevation of the beam, the relative locations of the projector
and camera and either the azimuth or elevation of the movie
camera it might be possible to estimate the height of the
obejct. If the focal length of the camera is known, one could
then estimate the size. (Might also estimate the size from the
beam divergence if the altitude can be determined.)

>Furthermore, in one short frame sequence, the movie shows that
>although the spotlight beam (at that time) is pointing several
>.degrees away from the object of interest, when the beam gets >
>within a certain radius of the object, the beam appears to
>>become anomalously bent several degrees back directly onto the
>object! I have an frame print enlargement of one such frame from
>the movie.

Who made the movie? In this case there weren't "bombs bursting
in air" to clutter up the atmosphere with smoke, as in the BOLA