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Re: Congress and Disclosure - Hamilton

From: Bill Hamilton <skyman22@fastmail.fm>
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 05:56:45 -0800
Fwd Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 09:32:39 -0500
Subject: Re: Congress and Disclosure - Hamilton

>From: Josh Goldstein <lovolution@sbcglobal.net>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net>
>Date: Mon, 27 Aug 1956 23:23:41 -0800
>Subject: Re: Congress and Disclosure

>>From: Vince White <Vinceomni@aol.com>
>>To: ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net
>>Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:52:52 EST
>>Subject: Re: Congress and Disclosure

>>>From: Richard Hall <hallrichard99@hotmail.com>
>>>To: ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net
>>>Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 23:26:40 +0000
>>>Subject: Re: Congress and Disclosure

>>>Your paranoia and your totally unfounded assumptions are only
>>>exceeded by your ignorance of the way the real world works in
>>>Washington, D.C.

>>>Who am I to say?


>>When serious hearings happen, probably in the wake of a breakout
>>UFO event, such as a live broadcast of a close up UFO, the long
>>hidden interest of some of Congress will be visible. The now
>>very cloistered curiosity will be loud and angry, There are very
>>bright members of congress who will demand answers to the very
>>issues Greer introduced at his press conference. The late Ben
>>Rich's successor may be asked to explain that slide of a black
>>disc heading into space, that Rich showed to an engineering
>>conference in 93, stating we have the means to the stars.


>In the statement above, you made a claim that in an engineering
>conference of 1993 Ben Rich presented a slide of a black-disc
>heading into space and told his audience that we have the means
>to go to the stars.

>I would like to know how you obtained this alleged information.

>I also would like you to state the exact date of that
>conference, its location, the name of the organization that
>presented the conference, and if you have the names of any
>people you claim saw the presentation by Ben Rich.


I will answer for him as I have that data. Jan Harzan is the
Director of MUFON O.C. and it is he who heard the statements.

Well, it just so happens that Jan was the source of the rumor
that Ben Rich made statements in a presentation he gave to the
group of engineers which happened to be members of a UCLA Alumni
association who were invited to hear this presentation by Ben
Rich on March 23, 1993.

The late Ben R. Rich, a UCLA School of Engineering alumnus (MS
'50) who is known as the "Father of Stealth," is recognized as
one of the best aircraft engineers in the world and led
development of the heralded F-117 stealth fighter.

Knowing Jan, I called him to clarify what Ben said at this
presentation to UCLA engineering alumni. I work at UCLA and am
only steps away from the engineering building.

Here is what Jan, a Senior Project Executive with Boeing told me
about Ben's presentation:

- Ben showed slides and went through the history of the Skunk
Works. Showed pics of U2 and SR-71 and drones that no one had
seen before.

- The kicker was the last slide. It showed a black disk headed
for space. Ben showed this and made the statement, "We now have
the technology to take ET home". He made this statement in 1993,
but did not say how long we have had this tech.

There was a Q&A after the lecture. In this Q&A, he told the
engineers that it was now possible to travel to the stars. There
was an error in the equations which was corrected. The time of
travel is fast, but he didn't say how fast.

Ben said he believed that security was too oppressive and that
the time had come to develop this technology in the commercial
world now that the cold war has ended. Months later he died of

Jan is going to consult with his friend Tom who was also present
and do an article on this in a future MUFON Journal.

- Bill Hamilton