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Re: PRG/X-Conference Update - December 1, 2003 -

From: John Velez <johnvelez.aic@verizon.net>
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:55:37 -0500
Fwd Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 15:27:22 -0500
Subject: Re: PRG/X-Conference Update - December 1, 2003 -

>From: Steven Bassett <SGBList2@aol.com>
>To: ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net
>Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 11:37:30 EST
>Subject: Re: PRG/X-Conference Update - December 1, 2003

>>From: John Velez <johnvelez.aic@verizon.net>
>>To: ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net
>>Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:41:47 -0500
>>Subject: Re: PRG/X-Conference Update - December 1, 2003

>>To: ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net
>>Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:41:47 -0500
>>Subject: Re: PRG/X-Conference Update - December 1, 2003

>>>From: Stephen G. Bassett <Disclosure2003@aol.com>
>>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net>
>>>Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 02:51:06 -0500
>>>Subject: PRG/X-Conference Update - December 1, 2003

>>>Paradigm Research Group
>>>Update - December 1, 2003

>>>The X-Conference

>>>PRG is pleased to announce the addition of Dr. Robert Wood, Ryan
>>>Wood and Peter Robbins to the speaker platform. There is now a
>>>full contingent of 22 presenters with the Key Note speaker and
>>>additional panel discussion participants to be selected early in

>>Hello Stephen,

>>You continue to fail to address the legitimate questions I am
>>posing to you regarding the hiring of Greer to speak at your
>>upcoming UFO conference. I am re-posting my inquiry to you in
>>hopes that you will take the time to address what are legitimate
>>points, questions and concerns that I have raised in regard to
>>Steven Greer.

Hello Stephen, hi All,

Stephen Bassett responds to my legitimate questions about why he
has hired Greer to be a speaker at his upcoming UFO conference
in Washington DC thusly:


>Address your criticisms of Steven Greer to Steven Greer.

You're kidding right?

Ya know, for somebody who only uses this List to plug your own
self-serving agendas, you've got a lot of nerve blowing me off
this way. In fact, how dare you?

First off...

_You_ are the one who is actively promoting and publicly
supporting a ufological pariah like Steven Greer by setting him
up as a speaker at a public UFO conference, not me. All I did
was ask you why, knowing what we all know about Greer, do you
support him and legitimize him by hiring him to be a speaker at
this conference you are mounting.


You imply with your dismissive one sentence reply that I am
talking to the wrong person here. I've got news for you, _years_
before you joined this List, I told Steven Greer (to his face)
everything I have mentioned about him in my recent posts to this
List. There is a history here with a long grey beard that you
are obviously not aware of. I've said _everything_ that I have
to say, directly to that condescending, egomaniac Greer man to
man, face to face.

I have tracked down some of the old posts and I will publish
them on this List so that you and anyone else who may be
interested can read them and make up their own minds about it

But I digress...

It is _you_ who have apparently missed the point here. I'm not
talking to Greer. I'm not 'asking him' anything. Been dere, done
dat. I am talking to _you_ Stephen.

I am asking these questions about Greer's track record of _you_.
And why you? Because I have to know how you can in good
conscience justify hiring this guy to speak at _any_ UFO-related
conference after all we know about him. It's a legit and valid
set of questions. All you can do in response apparently is to
'blow me off' rather than deal with the substance of the points
I have raised.

BTW, just so you know it isn't strictly about Greer, I'd be
asking you these same questions if you had hired William Cooper
or Sean David Morton to speak at your conference. Actually, I'm
being a 'good boy' and I'm not getting on your case about hiring
that Nostradamus wannabee Richard Hoagland, who predicted the
landing of a mothership in Arizona that never happened, nor have
I mentioned anything at all about all this Lear/Bell/Lazar
manure that you've been 'spreading around' lately. No, I
restricted my questions to why you hired Greer. And you can't
even handle that! Is it that you already know you can't make a
convincing case for hiring Greer as a speaker at this

I'm not presuming to speak as the List moderator here but, if
you cannot respond to the legitmate questions of a UFO UpDates
List member when they are asked, next time you need to
"advertise" something for free, (ie'this upcoming conference,
your 'Paradigm Clock' -whatever the hell that is- or X-PAC) why
don't you use whatever List it is you actually participate in -
 instead of this one.

Blow me off eh? All I can say to that is; Later for you.

Most sincerely,

John Velez