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Re: Asking Jesus For Intervention Stops Abductions

From: John Velez <johnvelez.aic@verizon.net>
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:57:02 -0500
Fwd Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:39:47 -0500
Subject: Re: Asking Jesus For Intervention Stops Abductions

>From: Tim Shell <tshell@vcmails.com>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net>
>Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 16:04:55 -0600
>Subject: Re: Asking Jesus For Internvention Stops Abductions

>>From: Greg Boone <Evolbaby@aol.com>
>>To: ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net
>>Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:02:31 EST
>>Subject: Re: Asking Jesus For Internvention Stops Abductions

>>What would they think of us?

>They might say, "Back on our planet if we kill somebody and they
>come back to life, we kill them again and do a better job of

>Back a little more on the topic, I suspect that a talisman of
>some kind might be effective in warding off abductions.
>Wouldn't matter what it was as long as the abductee truly
>believed the talisman worked. There's some altered state of
>consciousness that goes on in an abduction scenario that
>apparently fades or is broken if you can get your mind to
>concentrate clearly on something. A prayer would accomplish the
>same thing, I guess.

>Other than that, those Hopkinsville folks seemed to have pretty
>good luck with shotguns.  Lock 'n load!

Hello Tim, All,

I think an important distinction needs to be acknowledged. There
are two types of abductees... people who 'think/imagine' they
are being abducted and people who _are_ being abducted. The
inherent problem in this thread so far has been that the latter
has not been given due consideration.

Hey, if people who 'think' they are being abducted can stop it
by calling on Jesus, Daffy Duck or any other Guardian Deity they
might believe in, more power to em. The fact remains that many
ARE being physically abducted/taken and I don't think that
calling on _anybody_ can stop it once it starts. If there is
anything that can be said about the 'abductors' it is that they
are coldly efficient, single-minded in their purpose and that
once the 'abduction operation' begins, it is executed with
military precision and efficiency.

They do what they do whether you like it or not. You can kick,
shout, knock yourself out, nothing matters, nothing will make it
stop. I worked with Budd Hopkins for many years. There is case
after case (my own included) where people are in the middle of
the business of their day when... the car is approached by a
UFO, or they are somehow deviated from the direction they were
travelling in and they find themselves in some isolated area, or
as in the Debbie Jordan case, while Debbie and her mom were
puttering around the house, an abduction event unfolds. I'm
talking about people who are wide awake and busy doing something
else when all of a sudden, bang! They are smack in the middle of
an absolutely horrible situation that they are helpless to
prevent or to curtail no matter how much they protest. In
Debbie's case she went out to the yard with her father's loaded
shotgun in her hand.

She never got off a shot.

I don't think mentioning _anybody's_ name, Jesus or whoever,
would have stopped what happened to her and her mom that night.
Ditto for me and for many other cases I can quote from.

Let's make a distinction between those who are 'imagining' they
are being abducted and those who are ACTUALLY being abducted and
this thread will suddenly begin to make some sense. I resent the
lack of distinction between the two here in this thread.


John Velez, Abductee