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Re: Asking Jesus For Intervention Stops Abductions

From: Tim Shell <tshell@vcmails.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 10:30:09 -0600
Fwd Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 09:58:34 -0500
Subject: Re: Asking Jesus For Intervention Stops Abductions

>From: John Velez <johnvelez.aic@verizon.net>
>To: ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net
>Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:57:02 -0500
>Subject: Re: Asking Jesus For Intervention Stops Abductions

>Let's make a distinction between those who are 'imagining' they
>are being abducted and those who are ACTUALLY being abducted and
>this thread will suddenly begin to make some sense. I resent the
>lack of distinction between the two here in this thread.

I don't want to even to try to dispute what you believe. Because
I'm sure there are plenty of people here who either think you're
completely delusional and will ask you for your alien Polaroids,
or on the other end of the spectrum those who will accept every
word without question and what they don't hear from you they'll
make up on their own. I don't want to get into that church

But from what I understand, even with a physical abduction,
there is usually a strong cognitive component involved. How does
one drive along and "suddenly" find themselves isolated? Or
simply not be able to pull a trigger on a shotgun? That's
indication of a strong cognitive/perceptual component. The old
"high strangeness" aspect. There's going to be some ambiguity
about the "reality" of your experience because of your
perception of it. What you perceive with your senses (very
unreliable, think of a magic act), and your memory (also
extremely unreliable). You say it doesn't matter if you kick and
scream, etc., but how can an abductee really be sure they're
doing all of that? The common picture of aliens make them look
pretty spindly. A good, solid boot to the head ought to at least
slow them down. And what if a prayer or talisman has been
effective in warding off a physical abduction? Since the
abduction never happened, then there's no report. You get a
paradox, and you're trying to prove a negative again.

All I'm suggesting is that in any abduction scenario, it might
be advantageous to have some kind of clear mental focal point,
if for no other reason than to look for vulnerabilities to
exploit in self-defense. But, like I said in another post, there
appear to be subtleties and complexities involved that might be
beyond our admittedly limited capacity to comprehend. I don't
have an answer. I'm just trying to come up with reasonable