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Re: Mr. Roberts Of The "Unknown-Unknown" - Connors

From: Wendy Connors <fadeddiscs@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:18:28 -0700
Fwd Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:07:24 -0500
Subject: Re: Mr. Roberts Of The "Unknown-Unknown" - Connors

>From: Andy Roberts <aj.roberts@blueyonder.co.uk>
>To: UFO UpDates <ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net>
>Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 21:19:25 -0000
>Subject: Re: Mr. Roberts Of The "Unknown-Unknown"

>>From: Wendy Connors <fadeddiscs@comcast.net>
>>To: UFO UpDates <ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net>
>>Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 09:17:03 -0700
>>Subject: Re: Mr. Roberts Of The "Unknown-Unknown"

>>Rhetorical Question: Why are the debunking views of Andy Roberts
>>and his feral distain for anyone who engages in the study of
>>Ufology being espoused on UFO UpDates and, for that matter, all
>>debunkers, pelicanists, etc., who haunt the List?

>Why not? It's a List for discussion about UFOs, which I have
>done extensively over the last six years or so.

The question was rhetorical. Research as to its definition can
be found in any English dictionary. However, since you felt
compelled to comment, I shall too. You claim six years of
hoaxing, interferring with other researchers work, all the while
popping psychadelics. Real solid contributions to the study of
Ufology. Pathetic.

>>Personal Comment Number 1: If UFO UpDates exists for the "study
>>of UFO-related phenomena," why is the subject allowed to be
>>hijacked by CSICOPian cultists, debunkers, etc., whose sole aim
>>is to prevent the "study of UFO-related phenomena" and interfere
>>with the stated aim of UFO UpDates?

>Because sceptics have as much right to a say as anyone else. I
>don't really understand why you and anyone else should want to
>have a closed list which only discusses the things you believe
>in but which aren't proven!

I have no problem with skeptics. It is skeptics that hoax,
belittle, corrupt, rewrite, falsify and muddy the waters. They
are no longer skeptics. They are debunkers with an agenda to
destroy millions of peoples legitimate interest in Ufology.
Skeptics have their own Lists and websites.

It is an ideological mindset that borders on facism. These
debunkers form cults (such as CSICOP's) of this same hidden
agenda. Their fanaticism spreads to the point of trying to use
science for their legitimacy, but in fact, uses science to
delude and control the free will of others the right to look at,
or seek, that which is beyond themselves. They also bastardize
legitimate science, which widens the gulf between it and the

Your ilk become destroyers of knowledge and history tells of how
evil that intent becomes. In my opinion, you contribute nothing
to the knowledge of Ufology and you waste people's time who are
trying to learn Ufology.

Don't even attempt to compare your own contributions to Ufology
with mine. It would be academic suicide for you.

>>Personal Comment Number 2: Is there not one ufological forum in
>>existence that is free from CSICOPian cult terrorism? If not,

>That's right Wendy, ghettoise ufology so that only those singing
>from the same hymn sheet get a look in. Why are you all obsessed
>with CSICOP? Do they frighten you? I know nothing about them
>other than they appear to be a _very_ bad bogeyman indeed!

No. You're as wrong as you can be and too addled to know it.
People who share an interest in Ufology have the right to learn
and research without debunking or having their time wasted by
the debunking cults. Most people in the field are skeptical, but
open-minded. Not so with debunkers, who come in guise of skeptic
to assassinate Ufology. Monumental difference.

As to "fear of CSICOP." I cannot speak for others, but if you
can really research you will find I'm not the least bit
intimidated by their cult or members. But, people on UFO UpDates
should be fearful. It is a cult with an agenda to ridicule,
character assassinate and destroy the right of others to think
and participate in learning and understanding Ufology.

So, why are you and other debunkers afraid of Ufology? You do
everything you can to destroy it at the same time claiming you
have a right to participate on a List supposed to be devoted to
Ufology... not Ufological debunking 101.

>>Personal Comment Number 3: I'd really be thrilled if Andy
>>Roberts and CSICOPian cultists were driven off the "Happy
>>Trails" of UFO UpDates, but that's my personal opinion.

>How queer Wendy. Despite your odd views I'm quite happy to have
>you on this List as I believe you have actually put something
>into the subject.

I could care less of your "happy to have you (me) on this List."
How arrogant you are! I'm on the list as long as EBK desires my
participation. He owns UFO UpDates, Andy. You do not.

As to your condescending, "I believe you have actually put
something into the subject," you are either totally clueless,
drugged out of your mind or jealous. There can be no other
options and cannot be disputed.

>Happy Trails

You're the proverbial road apple on the trail of Ufology, Andy.
I think it's time UFO UpDater's paved you and your, "Happy
Trails," over with concrete.


Wendy Connors