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Re: Trindade Material - Part III - Harney

From: John Harney <magonia@harneyj.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 22:05:51 -0000
Fwd Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 15:35:53 -0500
Subject: Re: Trindade Material - Part III - Harney

>From: Martin Shough <mshough@parcellular.fsnet.co.uk>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net>
>Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:03:50 -0000
>Subject: Re: Trindade Material - Part III

>>From: John Harney <magonia@harneyj.freeserve.co.uk>
>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net>
>>Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:07:13 -0000
>>Subject: Re: Trindade Material - Part III

>>Look, this was not a cruise liner - it was a Brazilian Navy
>>_training_ship_. Sailing ships (with auxiliary engines) like the
>>Almirante Saldanha are also used by other navies. They are used
>>to train young recruits in seamanship and _discipline_, so that
>>they can cope with any emergencies they are likely to encounter
>>at sea. An obvious emergency, for a naval vessel, would be the
>>appearance of an unidentified and possibly hostile aircraft. Yet,
>>when this happens the men on the deck of the Almirante Saldanha
>>just panic (if we believe Barauna). This is not a trivial matter;
>>it must be clarified if we are to take the story seriously.

>Since the detailed disposition of the men on deck does not seem
>to be known, might the men have been 'frantically running'
>*towards* their various stations as a result of what you
>describe as an emergency? In the circumstances - a first real-
>life defensive alert for young recruits - it wouldn't be
>surprising if this deployment were just a bit chaotic, would it?
>The more so if there were indeed a 'flying saucer' swooping

>Good point about the tripod, though.

If this business about the apparent disorder on deck when the
UFO was sighted were the only peculiar detail, then perhaps it
wouldn't tend to make the sighting seem doubtful. But there are
a number of other difficulties with the story, most of which
have been steadfastly ignored, or brushed aside as unimportant,
by the believers.

For instance, if the film which was said to have the UFO images
on it was so important, why was it developed under conditions
which could easily have ruined it, as I have alreadey asked?
Also, why were many crew members allegedly allowed to examine
it, even before it had dried? Surely no serious photographer
would allow this. More seriously, if the film was considered so
important, why was Barauna allowed to take it to his private
laboratory before it could be examined by Navy photographic

I could go on, but it is probably futile, as this case has
obviously been included in the canon of Sacred UFO Mysteries, so
may not questioned. Any doubt, disbelief or denial is likely to
incur the penalty of anathematisation by the big beasts of the
ufological jungle (or something like that).

John Harney