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Re: Maussan Makes Prediction For 12-12-03 - Velez

From: John Velez <johnvelez.aic@verizon.net>
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:21:46 -0500
Fwd Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:03:39 -0500
Subject: Re: Maussan Makes Prediction For 12-12-03 - Velez


>From: Captain Alejandro Franz <alfafox@Prodigy.net.mx>
>To: ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net
>Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:41:33 -0700
>Subject: Re: Maussan Makes Prediction For 12-12-03

>I can provide some information about this case, another one of
>many J. Maussan hoaxes. The Aeromexico DC9 flight 129 from
>Guadalajara to Mexico's City Intl. Airport that supposedly had a
>collision with a UFO when approaching runway 05 right at
>Mexico's Intl. Airport on july 1994.

>I know personally the "eyewitness" Enrique Kolbeck, an Air
>Traffic Controller, very close to Jaime Maussan because he is
>the one who always has been invited to join the "team" of
>"eyewitnesses" at all UFO conventions that Maussan has organized
>since 1997.

<snip>

Hola Capt. Franz,

I am not an 'expert'. Therefore I will not argue or debate point
by point the many issues you have raised in regard to this
alleged collision case. What it all boils down to is this; you
are saying (in essence) that Enrique Kolbeck, and Capt. Ruano,
who are the principles reporting this incident in conjunction
with Jaime Maussan, are lying. That there is no 'collision case'
as such.

That's pretty strong stuff. I hope you can prove your
contentions. I have a tendency to believe the testimony of the
pilot and the ground support person who both say that it _did_
happen. You expressed yourself eloquently in English in your
initial post. I wonder if wouldn't be too much to ask if you can
translate and publish here to the List, the contents of the
webpage that you referred me to. I do not have the time to
translate it myself.

We all need to hear both sides of this argument. I'd also like
to ask you if you were there (working at the control tower) when
the alleged collision took place?

One other point, you said that it would have been impossible to
detect the OVNI as a separate object on radar if Ruano's plane
had been directly over it at the time Kolbeck warned him about
it.

Doesn't it make more sense that the DC9 and the OVNI would have
appeared as separate and distinct blips because Kolbeck was
_fore-warning_ Capt. Ruano. Which means that the warning would -
by definition- have been issued _prior_ to the DC9 having
reached the position of the UFO/OVNI. Ergo, Kolbeck would have
seen _two_ distinct blips. According to the facts of the case he
would have had to see two separate blips in order to be able to
_warn_ Ruano of the impending collision.

If you can please translate your material and post it here, it
would be most helpful to those considering the merits of the
case. Thank you in advance for your time and co-operation.

At some point I would like to invite Enrique Kolbeck and Capt.
Ruano to address the points you are raising. If not here on this
List, on-air on Strange Days... Indeed.


Thank you,

John Velez