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HBCC UFO Research Recently Reported Sightings -

From: Brian Vike - HBCC UFO <hbccufo.nul>
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 20:23:33 -0700
Fwd Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 07:51:28 -0400
Subject: HBCC UFO Research Recently Reported Sightings -

HBCC UFO Research Recently Reported Sightings

Newsletter Release: September 12, 2004

Marine on St. Croix, Minnesota Black Triangle Sighting

Date:  Summer of 1997
Time:  Evening

Dear Brian:  Since someone reported a 1993-4 sighting I thought
I should chime in with my Black Triangle sighting in the summer
of 1997, in Marine on St. Croix, Minnesota, a town 15 miles
north of Stillwater in the St. Croix River Valley bordering
Wisconsin, about 50 miles northeast of the Twin Cities.

My sister and I happened to be watching the X-Files without any
big hoopla.  The show ended she wandered over to the sliding
door out onto the deck and said, "See there are those lights
that I've seen before."  She had told me about multi-colored
spheres doing formations unexplainable by conventional
technology which she had seen in the river valley a little north
and also earlier in Taos, New Mexico.  She was bored and went

I kept on observing these "plasma spheres" on the horizon to the
east and spent maybe 10 minutes comparing them to possible
explanations so I could potentially rule out what I was
observing.  Different colored lights were hovering, making 90
degree directional changes both vertically and horizontally.

Then I realized something was slowly heading right towards me
from the horizon, probably 10 miles away.  I waited and a large,
flat black triangle slowly flew right over our yard, right above
the tree-line.  I was not familiar with the black triangle
sightings at this time but my immediate reaction was that it
must be some secret military craft.

The object was so close I could have hit it with a rock and it
flew very slowly while only making a slight humming sound.  I
didn't dare look away.  There were lights on each its corners
and the black triangle slowly passed maybe 100 feet over the
roof of our house and continued on across the river valley.

My parents use to operate the local legal (removed) for the
surrounding towns and one of their workers had brought in a
binder of clippings from the UFO flap in the area during the
1970s.  There were large round UFOs right in the paper and a
cattleman had moved away because of mutilation to his cattle on
his land adjacent to a federal wildlife reserve.  Also that area
is a military flight test area.

My dad, also in summer 1997, saw a UFO -- he said it was "bigger
than the moon and had lights all around the center of it."  He
couldn't figure out what it was so I told him that was a U.F.O.
and he refused to accept that term since he's a rationalist --
 but he was listening to Art Bell at the time as well.

It wasn't until I came across other descriptions of Black
Triangle Sightings on Rense.com a few years ago that I realized
I had experienced the exact same phenomenon as many others.  My
book reading further verified the extensive sightings elsewhere,
i.e. Belgium. But not till now have I reported the sighting, as
far as I can remember, and I didn't see my location marked on
the map in the recent Black Triangle report.


Thank you to the witness for the report.


Foxboro, Ontario Cloud Formation

Date:  August 31, 2004
Time:  9:10 p.m.

At 9:00 p.m. EST I went outside to let our house dogs out. I
decided since there were no mosquitoes evident to sit on the
front porch. It was a beautiful clear sky and the full moon
hadn't come up yet. I could see many stars above and since we do
not live in the city, the lights of the stars were clear. I
could see the glow of the lights of the city of Belleville to
the south of us.

At approx 9:10 p.m. I noticed a strange orangey object on the
Western horizon above the hill to the northwest of us. I called
my husband out to see this as this object was moving towards our
house and it was bigger than any plane I have seen. He came out
and viewed the object in the sky. Then went inside to get his
binoculars. When he came out and viewed the object with the
binoculars he noticed its unusual shape. "I determined that it
was shaped like a snow angel with a pointed head, that is it was
an elongated object with four fan-like projections at its sides.

The pointed head had a blinking light. As it approached its
color changed to white." We then called our son out to view this
object in the sky. He confirmed the same shape that we had both
observed. It was moving from west to east and heading right over
our house. All three of us viewed this object coming towards the
house and its shape and size. It seemed to be a glowing cloud
with a flashing light. The 'angel' shape was glowing and you
could see stars through it. However at the 'pointed' end you
could not see stars through it.

We also noted 5-6 aircraft all heading the same direction around
the object. Some did appear to be circling the object. The
object was considerably larger than any of these planes.
Approximately 9:15 p.m.-9:20 p.m., the objects light stopped
blinking. But, the cloud 'angel' continued to move towards our
house (easterly). At this point (approx 9:25 p.m.) Gordon went
back into the house. My son and I stayed out to watch this
object. It was now almost directly over the house. I had the
binoculars and watched as a bright circular orangey-yellow
object flew out of the cloud. This object was about the size of
1/4 of the full moon.

The object headed directly north at a much faster speed than the
cloud had been moving. The object appeared to be about 1/8 the
size of the full moon when it reached the stars that make up the
Big Dipper. It reached that position in the sky in about 30
seconds. The object then turned 90 degrees and headed back west.
It disappeared moments later. The cloud disappeared within 5
minutes of the object leaving it. All planes then seemed to have
left the vicinity when we looked for them again after the object
disappeared. All the ones we had observed around this object
that is. It should be noted here that at no time did we hear any
noise from this object. We could hear and see the planes, but,
not this other object in the sky. Note: It was moving laterally
to its length across the sky.

Additional Information:

Hello Brian,

We are going to check out the further info indicated in your
email today and tonight and will send a 2nd email regarding same
before the end of the weekend.

We are going to provide the report we did for NUFORC below as
well.  But, we wanted to clarify a few items regarding same.
 The report will appear with ___ above and below it.

Where we live in Foxboro, Ontario we are about 1.25 hours
driving time - 125km or so from the St. Lawrence Seaway on the
north end of Lake Ontario. We live about 7 or so miles north of
the city of Belleville (13 km).  All projected flight paths for
this rocket launch do not indicate that it went over eastern
Ontario.  If you look on a map you will see where we are.

The cloud formation did have a blinking light on it - as all the
reports said.  We have drawn pictures of the formation and also
of the object that came out of this formation, heading north and
then did a 90 degree turn west before disappearing.  We found a
picture of this object online recently.  It was EXACTLY what we
saw come out of the cloud that was over our house at the time.
 We can provide this picture we found upon request, we kept a
copy for our records.

The cloud being explained as the rocket expelling fuel we can
readily accept.  But, we do not feel what we saw a
'yellow/orange orb shaped object' coming out of the cloud could
have been the satellite or explained as part of the rocket
either.  The 'orb' pulled some of the cloud formation with it
and went north, then turned west 90 degrees almost adjacent to
one of the stars in the Big Dipper.  It was considerably larger
than the star it passed in the sky!  I can almost compare it to
the size of the harvest moon at some points during the fall.
 Except the moon wasn't up yet and rises to the east of our
house.  About 45 minutes after the object disappeared the moon
did rise and its color was very similar to the orb, but, it was
even bigger than the orb we saw that night.

The 'cloud' came in from the west over a low rise of a hill to
the north west of our home.  It came directly east and came over
the southeastern edge of our house as we watched it.  The
flashing lighted end was pointed directly south.  The 'object'
seemed to come from the southern end of the cloud and came
directly out of the middle of it heading north.  It flew at a
fast rate of speed to the north and turned west and was gone in
under 1 minute from leaving the cloud!  This was considerably
faster than any of the planes we saw overhead at the same time.

Below link are the witnesses drawings they made of what they saw
and they also gave location in the sky.


Additional Information Provided below By: Admin, SeeSat-L,

Mr. Brian Vike,  Director HBCC UFO Research Home

Dear Mr. Vike,

My guess is that, like NUFORC, you have received numerous
reports of a bright cloud seen over Eastern North America on
2004 Sep 01 at about 01 UTC (Aug 31 at 21 h EDT).

It was related to the launch of NROL-1 from Cape Canaveral, on
an Atlas 2AS rocket, a couple of hours earlier.

Spaceflight Now has the ground track, which crossed North


The cloud visible over North America was the result of the
Centaur's venting of excess propellant.

The strobing light effect reported by some observers was caused
by the tumbling of the Centaur. Observers who had telescopes
observed both the Centaur, and the satellite, which was still
nearby, in a similar orbit.

Centaur propellant dumps have been seen many times over the
years, most often by satellite observers and astronomers, but
sometimes by the general public.

Last evening's propellant dump was particularly prominent,
because it occurred at a relatively low altitude, below about
10,000 km. Most commonly they occur at about 40,000 km, and even
then they are visible to the unaided eye, but not as long, and
not quite as spectacular.

I posted my observation report to SeeSat-L:

As have several other observers:


Ted Molczan
Admin, SeeSat-L, satobs.org

HBCC UFO Research would like to extend my many thanks to the
witnesses for there report and to Ted Molczan, Admin, SeeSat-L
for providing all the excellent information about this sighting.
Also I am looking into seeing if there might have been something
else witnessed around the area.


Elgin, New Brunswick Lights Over Local Mountain

Date:  September 8, 2004
Time:  Approx: 1:30 a.m.

Number of witnesses: 1
Number of objects: 1
Shape of objects: ?

Full Description of event/sighting: I was looking out my large
2nd story bedroom window watching the stars when I saw several
 very slow moving mainly red and an occasional white flashing
light on some indiscernibly shaped object, silent, low
flying..just above the tree tops of the mountain just outside my
window. It moved along the tree line for approximately two
minutes then disappeared on the other side of the mountain,
reappeared flew the tree line again and repeated the pattern of
flight for maybe 4 or 5 minutes. Flying north west and
disappeared over mountain.The lights were flashing in a way that
I first thought of some sort of rescue mission. In the 4 or 5
minutes it only flew over about 1/3 of the mountain. I later saw
what I knew to be airplanes flying in a similar direction but
much higher, I could hear them and the lights didn't look
anything like what I had just witnessed earlier.

So who knows...I've never seen anything like it and for the
first time I'm visiting a UFO sighting web site.

Thank you to the witness for the report.


Kaufman County Texas Unusual Bizarre Object

Date:  September 11, 2004
Time:  8:00 p.m.

Hi Brian

I was just getting ready to come in tonight when I saw this
light above in the tree. I had my camera in my pocket, on and
ready, and snapped one picture of it. Have no idea what it is,
didn't hear any sound from it and didn't see it move. When I
started to take another, it was just gone. It was about 8:00
p.m., sky was clear and I didn't see any other aircraft in the
vicinity, no wind. Thought you would like to see it. Later my

Thank you to the witness for the report and pictures.

To view photos:



Phoenix, Arizona Barbell Object Returns

Date:  September 11, 2004
Time:  11:42 a.m.

Hi Brian,

I was out in the back yard saturday 9-11-04 at 11:42 a.m. When I
looked up to see the "barbell" UFO again. This time it looked
like it was morphing from cylinder to barbell to triangle

I was able to video tape it for about 7 min. This time it was
moving from north to south in a clear blue sky. The wind was
blowing from east to west. There was a tree branch blowing in
the wind that was geting it the way, but I was still able to get
some good video of this thing.

It moved out of site as the tree was geting in the way. I was
able to get it on the 5x lens with about 70x power, (no digital)

What is going on over phoenix? Someone let me know if they saw
this thing too. This thing was weird.

Thanks Brian,

Video clips and pictures are c.2004 Jeff Willes
Video clips can be viewed at:



Denver, Colorado Lights Moving On Of Cloud

Date:  September, week of 6th to 11th, 2004
Time:  9:00 p.m.

Other sightings the last few nights as I walk in the evening as
is my habit: Small cloud that I immediately thought was a "cloud
ship" as some call them, under a larger "cloud ship." Probably
about 9 PM that night maybe a week ago. A star like object,
flashing red, blue, and white moved out of the lower cloud and
straight up into the larger cloud. After several minutes 3
similar lights left the large cloud, one at a time and proceeded
in a south west direction, going I suppose a moderate speed.
Then the 2 clouds evaporated very quickly over a few minutes.

About 3 nights ago, saw red and green flashing object around
10:30 PM that moved very slowly in the North, much larger than a
star, about 1/4 inch in size. I watch it for several minutes,
and then it just poof, went out.

Thank you to the witness for the report.


Caledon, Ontario Object And Aura Around It

Date:  September 11, 2004
Time:  9:30 p.m.

I was at my friends a couple of km.'s south of my home last
night. From their backyard you could see the west sky quite
well, As I stood looking in the sky, I looked out of curiosity
to the east sky to see if there was any action going on in that
part of the sky, but not there.

Any ways as we sat down at the fire around 9:30 pm. I looked to
the west sky and there it was, I pointed it out to a couple of
people and they watched as it got brighter and gave off some
type of aura around it. It was zig zagging and doing circular
movements, it was above a tree in the distance and we watched it
drop below the tree line within 10 min. Even my friends are
starting to believe when they see things like this going on.
Some them made comments that it could be a starlight or
airplane, But of course I know what it was and there's still
people out there that have a hard time believing. (FEAR) maybe.

Thank you to the witness for the report.


Denver, Colorado Huge Perfect Saucer

Date:  September 11, 2004
Time:  7:30 p.m.

About 7:30 PM last night (Sat.) I was leaving the store and
heading west out of the parking lot. There was a huge perfect
saucer, brilliantly lit (kind of light golden color) in the
western sky, about 15 degrees above the horizon. It was
beginning to get dusky and the sun has set and small clouds in
the area were dark gray in color. This saucer is several miles
away, but I can't see the mountains at this vantage point, so I
am unsure of distance. It was about 2 inches in length, the
height about 1/2 inch. Absolutely perfect shape, could not be a
cloud. It drifted very slowly south. I watched it as I could
while driving north, until the trees obscured it. I looked for
it after I reached the area I live in and could drive more
safely to look for it, but I could not find it again, I think
the trees, etc., blocked it. The traffic was too heavy to stay
in, and I did not think to pull off where I could watch in
safety. But this was fun. No flashing lights, etc., just
beautiful bright slightly golden glow.

Thank you to the witness for the report.


Kaufman County Saucer And Plane Close To One Another

Date:  September 11, 2004
Time:  7:30 p.m.

Hi Brian

I was planning on sending this one also,but I was trying to
enhance it a  little so you can see it better.I didn't do a real
good job, but it's some better.Anyway it was about 7:30 p.m. on
09-11-04 when I saw this small plane coming toward me starting
to turn left.I took a couple pics of it,the first picture just
had the plane in it.The second one appears to have a saucer
above it to the right.I'm sending both pics to you with the
enhanced one also to see what you think.Same details as the
first one I sent except 30 minutes earlier. Check out the the
top right side of the picture also, looks like a orb too.

Thank you to the witness for the report.

Brian Vike

Director HBCC UFO
Research Home - Phone 250 845 2189
email: hbccufo.nul
Website: http://www.hbccufo.com
Redirect: http://www.canadianufo.com

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