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Re: UFO Couple Use Story To Spark Alien Abduction

From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 10:28:42 -0500
Fwd Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 12:37:25 -0400
Subject: Re: UFO Couple Use Story To Spark Alien Abduction

>From: Peter Rogerson <progerson.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 19:23:42 +0100
>Subject: Re: UFO Couple Use Story To Spark Alien Abduction Fear

>>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 13:05:12 -0500
>>Subject: Re: UFO Couple Use Story To Spark Alien Abduction Fear

>>>From: Peter Rogerson <progerson.nul>
>>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>>Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 19:17:55 +0100
>>>Subject: Re: UFO Couple Use Story To Spark Alien Abduction Fear

>>Beyond that, missing time seems to have been there in some pre-
>>Hill cases but was (understandably, given the limitations of
>>what ufologists knew back then) unrecognized and unremarked
>>upon. In other words, missing time was there waiting to be
>>found. Ufologists had nothing to do with it beyond, at last,
>>finding it. Are you going to tell us next that ufologists
>>invented daylight discs? Cloud cigars? E-M effects? I know that
>>pelicanists are attracted to what amounts to magical thinking
>>about social and psychological processes, but I trust you will
>>spare us this much.

>>Why are we even _talking_ about this? Missing time, whatever its
>>explanation, has been repeatedly demonstrated over the decades
>>as an aspect of the abduction phenomenon, however explained. It
>>is pointless and absurd to pretend that only the Hills had ever
>>had this experience (however explained). Maybe if they alone
>>spoke of it and it was never heard of again anywhere, this
>>discussion would have some reason to exist. Since they aren't
>>alone, this exchange is as urgently needed as a debate on pin-
>>top-dancing angels.

>And while they (Hohmann, Jackson and Macdonald) were here were
>they mentally reconstructing the whole trip. One of them said
>"What took you so long to get home...you went this distance.",
>etc. There is a conversation about seeing the moon on the
>ground. Then Fuller has Barney being shaken by realising that at
>the rate of speed I always travel they should have arrived home
>2 hours or so earlier.

>That, according to Fuller is where the 2 missing hours comes in,
>not a momentary blocking out of some fearful sight in the field.

As I have already shown, Peter, the Hills's memories of the
incident were already incompatible with the conscious testimony,
and in a very serious way. For example, Barney remembered seeing
the alien's face within touching distance - an image
disconnected from everything, including his sense of the time in
which the more distant CE3 of conscious recall was occurring.
The anomalies Walt Webb noted and couldn't comprehend are
consistent with an incident that both was more dramatic and took
longer than the puzzled Hills could reconstruct from the initial

Webb dealt with the anomalous, puzzling details by rationalizing
them away. Hohman and Jackson smartly grasped that the clue to
the case was _in_ the anomalous details - even without realizing
that there were previous, deeply obscure cases of missing time
in the close-encounter literature.

History, of course, has proved that they were right. The
missing-time phenomenon has been repeatedly demonstrated, over
time and space, as one of the most common elements of the
abduction experience. If it hadn't been the Hill case that
opened ufologists' eyes to this curious aspect, it would have
been another just down the road, and probably not very far down
that road.

Jerry Clark

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