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Re: UFO Couple Use Story To Spark Alien Abduction

From: Peter Rogerson <progerson.nul>
Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 18:44:40 +0100
Fwd Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 08:52:58 -0400
Subject: Re: UFO Couple Use Story To Spark Alien Abduction

>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 10:28:42 -0500
>Subject: Re: UFO Couple Use Story To Spark Alien Abduction Fear

>>From: Peter Rogerson <progerson.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 19:23:42 +0100
>>Subject: Re: UFO Couple Use Story To Spark Alien Abduction Fear

>>>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
>>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>>Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 13:05:12 -0500
>>>Subject: Re: UFO Couple Use Story To Spark Alien Abduction Fear

>>>>From: Peter Rogerson <progerson.nul>
>>>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>>>Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 19:17:55 +0100
>>>>Subject: Re: UFO Couple Use Story To Spark Alien Abduction Fear


>>>>As I have already shown, Peter, the Hills's memories of the
>incident were already incompatible with the conscious testimony,
>and in a very serious way. For example, Barney remembered seeing
>the alien's face within touching distance - an image
>disconnected from everything, including his sense of the time in
>which the more distant CE3 of conscious recall was occurring.
>The anomalies Walt Webb noted and couldn't comprehend are
>consistent with an incident that both was more dramatic and took
>longer than the puzzled Hills could reconstruct from the initial

>Webb dealt with the anomalous, puzzling details by rationalizing
>them away. Hohman and Jackson smartly grasped that the clue to
>the case was _in_ the anomalous details - even without realizing
>that there were previous, deeply obscure cases of missing time
>in the close-encounter literature.

>History, of course, has proved that they were right. The
>missing-time phenomenon has been repeatedly demonstrated, over
>time and space, as one of the most common elements of the
>abduction experience. If it hadn't been the Hill case that
>opened ufologists' eyes to this curious aspect, it would have
>been another just down the road, and probably not very far down
>that road.

Yes. Unlike Walter Webb who was a mainstream scientific
ufologist, Hohmann and Jackson, who had at least one foot in the
realm of contacteeism and folk ufology, were not _entirely
unpredisposed_ to believe in alien abduction; the general idea
of alien abduction, and aliens being responsible for missing
people etc was already around in folk ufology.

I don't think that Hohmann and Jackson were just passive
recorders however; it's there influence which later sets Betty
on the road to becoming a semi contactee for example. Right at
the beginning they come up with these strange ideas about
nitrates, and I think their role is crucial in persuading Betty
that her nightmares are real, and there was this period of real
as opposed to subjective missing time.

The impossible level of detail is something which occurs in a
number of cases of apparitions/hallucinations and suggests the
essentially subjective nature of the experience. My impression
of Barney's experiences in the field is that remind me of the
flashbacks associated with post traumatic stress, something
which would definitely not have occurred to investigators in the
early 1960s. The imagery is essentially human, the kamikaze
pilot with leather jacket and scarf, the _evil Nazi officer_,
the threatening cop etc. Maybe this stress was helping to cause
his ulcer. As with many of these cases the Hill case, I suspect,
can only be understood in the context of the totality of their
lives, and the times in which they lived.

Missing time in general probably has several causes, ranging all
the way from simple inattention, through highway hypnosis, micro
sleep/micro rem, the complete kinds of complete disorientation
and hallucination reported by night travellers ( the Irish stray
sod for example), all the way up to dissociative episodes, fugue
states, epileptic and narcopletic attacks and other neurological
events, and surely in some cases the pills and the booze, to say
nothing of those made up to cover up extra marital affairs (as
seems to have been the case in more than one British abduction).

Peter Rogerson

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