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Re: UFO Couple Use Story To Spark Alien Abduction

From: Rich Reynolds <rrrgroup.nul>
Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 09:00:44 -0500
Fwd Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 20:25:27 -0400
Subject: Re: UFO Couple Use Story To Spark Alien Abduction


>From: Peter Rogerson <progerson.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 18:44:40 +0100
>Subject: Re: UFO Couple Use Story To Spark Alien Abduction Fear

>>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 10:28:42 -0500
>>Subject: Re: UFO Couple Use Story To Spark Alien Abduction Fear

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>The impossible level of detail is something which occurs in a
>number of cases of apparitions/hallucinations and suggests the
>essentially subjective nature of the experience. My impression
>of Barney's experiences in the field is that remind me of the
>flashbacks associated with post traumatic stress, something
>which would definitely not have occurred to investigators in the
>early 1960s. The imagery is essentially human, the kamikaze
>pilot with leather jacket and scarf, the _evil Nazi officer_,
>the threatening cop etc. Maybe this stress was helping to cause
>his ulcer. As with many of these cases the Hill case, I suspect,
>can only be understood in the context of the totality of their
>lives, and the times in which they lived.
>
>Missing time in general probably has several causes, ranging all
>the way from simple inattention, through highway hypnosis, micro
>sleep/micro rem, the complete kinds of complete disorientation
>and hallucination reported by night travellers ( the Irish stray
>sod for example), all the way up to dissociative episodes, fugue
>states, epileptic and narcopletic attacks and other neurological
>events, and surely in some cases the pills and the booze, to say
>nothing of those made up to cover up extra marital affairs (as
>seems to have been the case in more than one British abduction).


Peter:

The abduction phenomenon has been around for some time, 1951 in
the 'modern' era and further back if anecdotal accounts are to
be trusted.

One can't dismiss the 'experiences' of people like the Hills, or
in the UFO circle here, people like John Velez and Will Bueche.

These are not insane people, nor hoaxers, nor persons inclined
to add material to their experience which isn't there in the
first place.

When Velez and Bueche say they had an "experience," one has to
accept that what happened to them had some tangibility.

I don't know what "abductions" are, but Velez and Bueche have
some idea, but most people are so quick to dismiss such accounts
that I imagine they won't (or can't) explain it exactly to
skeptics or persons who seem to be calling them liars, or nuts.

Something has happened to credible and decent, intelligent
people. We should try to find out what it was.....


Rich Reynolds




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